A canned tin of fish cannot be as good as a fresh fish. So how can canned tin of lighting be as good as fresh lighting?

true ...............however aged wine always tast better than fresh wine no?

pixel counts come and go, but teh lighting stays the same, in the case of killzone 2's ;ighting, the vet though older can still hang extremely tight with the young crowd,

oh and besides, technically alan wake has been in development longer than killzone lol

This is a picture of Killzone 3 with just engine produced lighting and hundreds of enemies on the screen.

Seriously, its stupid to say that any game with pre-baked lighting has good lighting. Thats like saying that a game looks great because the full motion video was expensive.

Frankly, I don't even bother commenting on these kind of threads, regardless of console it's supporting. But if even Naz, Reasonable, and Torillian intervened, something is clearly wrong.

One thing though, about the red part: The problem is, selnor has a rather notorious history of hyping one thing about 360 exclusives/console exclusives: Graphics. I'm all for supporting preferred platforms, but I don't get why he's so keen on letting everyone know he thinks every newly announced 360 (console) exclusive game has the "best graphics ever on consoles".

he does it all the time, lol.

i think he is just super chuft that theres been some 360 news lately hence he is jumping up and down, when his claims are proven wrong he will dissapear again.

OT i think alan wake looks very good surely a worthy purchase if gameplay is tight, but it hasnt got best grafix.