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Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:

PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox 360 PS3 and Wii combined

 

 

and if you looked at the site you posted with the top 100, Half-Life 2 is higher the Halo.

If you looked at the list you would see it is revenue based not quality based.

Based off you answer I can easily say thank you, you have proven my point very well. That is all.

Why? because I've played FPS games since the first game of the genre Wolfenstein 3D was first released? because I've been playing video games, including classic shooters, since the c64 and Apple II?

Frankly PS2 > PS3 + 360 + Wii. And N64, NES, and SNES all top the PS2. PC will always be top rung on platforms and games. There are a ton of developers, both big and small, that are looking to innovate and create new experiences in different genres. Its also the longest living platform.

In the end you WILL NOT convince me that Halo added anything to the genre because I've play many games of its before its time that outclass it in everyway. There is nothing definitively special about Halo.

Tribes, Unreal, Battlefield, Half-Life, Doom, Deus Ex, etc all are in a higher class of games that Halo will never reach. Its called have world class developers behind them. Bungie is not a world class developer like Valve, Dice, ID Software, Raven Software, Epic Games, GearBox, or Ritual, and probably never will be.

 

Im sick of arguing with you because your blinded by fanboyism of your favorite console. Its ok. Maybe you should actually take a look at learning about video game history and judge the fact that 4 player co-op and the many other featuires your trying to defend comes from other genres and platforms. They are not new concepts.

Were the same age, don't act like you've been playing games for 30 plus years. Also trust me just by reading your posts it's pretty clear who the fanboy in this argument is. This is not an argument about opinion this is a factual argument about innovation. I listed Halo's innovations yet you failed to list a single one from half-life. You've closed your mind shut so tight you won't even admit that Bungie is a good developer and you actually think the PC is better than all current gen consoles combined, now tell me that doesn't sound like fanboyism.

Its ok though, if you want to continue to pretend like the real world doesn't exist then go on ahead, who am I to stop you. Just don't spout your elitism like its the truth and expect me to take it laying down.

who cares about Half-Life 2's innovations when you cant even put up a defence against the fact Halo's features are not unique and have been done plenty of times in many other games.

But you want to know what Half-Life and Half-Life 2 brings to the table? Its the way Valve created a character in which you can create his individual persona using your own imagination. You can imagine how his convos go, and what his voice actually sounds like. You do not feel as if you are being pushed or pulled towards the end of the game, you feel as if you are on your own adventure forfilling your own duties to save a unique world. Valve has created a very special way to immerse the player into a false reality so by the end of the game the player feels not just accomplishment that they beat the story or game but that they did something special.



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ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:

Were the same age, don't act like you've been playing games for 30 plus years. Also trust me just by reading your posts it's pretty clear who the fanboy in this argument is. This is not an argument about opinion this is a factual argument about innovation. I listed Halo's innovations yet you failed to list a single one from half-life. You've closed your mind shut so tight you won't even admit that Bungie is a good developer and you actually think the PC is better than all current gen consoles combined, now tell me that doesn't sound like fanboyism.

Its ok though, if you want to continue to pretend like the real world doesn't exist then go on ahead, who am I to stop you. Just don't spout your elitism like its the truth and expect me to take it laying down.

who cares about Half-Life 2's innovations when you cant even put up a defence against the fact Halo's features are not unique and have been done plenty of times in many other games.

But you want to know what Half-Life and Half-Life 2 brings to the table? Its the way Valve created a character in which you can create his individual persona using your own imagination. You can imagine how his convos go, and what his voice actually sounds like. You do not feel as if you are being pushed or pulled towards the end of the game, you feel as if you are on your own adventure forfilling your own duties to save a unique world. Valve has created a very special way to immerse the player into a false reality so by the end of the game the player feels not just accomplishment that they beat the story or game but that they did something special.

I already listed Halo's innovations, if you disagree with them then show me fps games that had;

quick use grenades, regenerative health, 2 weapon maximum for both campaign and multiplayer, animations for getting into and out of vehicles, boarding of enemy vehicles, theater, matchmaking, dual wielding and four player co-op before Halo. If you can't then stop acting like a fanboy and just admit that your wrong.

I never said Half-Life was a bad game. I've played through all the games including the episodes and I can admit that it was fun. God forbid you on the other hand admit that a console fps is good cause your brain might explode. I'm also very familiar with Half-Life's story and I have to say that I think Halo's is far better, you just have to dig a little harder to really get to the meat of the story.

Read this if you want to even have an inkling of what the Halo story is about

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/the-terminals/ 

In the end the difference between me and you is that I can admit if a game is good regardless of platform because I'm not blinded by elitism or a misguided feeling of self-righteousness and you clearly can't. Get back to me when you've matured a little.

 



                                           

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Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:

Were the same age, don't act like you've been playing games for 30 plus years. Also trust me just by reading your posts it's pretty clear who the fanboy in this argument is. This is not an argument about opinion this is a factual argument about innovation. I listed Halo's innovations yet you failed to list a single one from half-life. You've closed your mind shut so tight you won't even admit that Bungie is a good developer and you actually think the PC is better than all current gen consoles combined, now tell me that doesn't sound like fanboyism.

Its ok though, if you want to continue to pretend like the real world doesn't exist then go on ahead, who am I to stop you. Just don't spout your elitism like its the truth and expect me to take it laying down.

who cares about Half-Life 2's innovations when you cant even put up a defence against the fact Halo's features are not unique and have been done plenty of times in many other games.

But you want to know what Half-Life and Half-Life 2 brings to the table? Its the way Valve created a character in which you can create his individual persona using your own imagination. You can imagine how his convos go, and what his voice actually sounds like. You do not feel as if you are being pushed or pulled towards the end of the game, you feel as if you are on your own adventure forfilling your own duties to save a unique world. Valve has created a very special way to immerse the player into a false reality so by the end of the game the player feels not just accomplishment that they beat the story or game but that they did something special.

I already listed Halo's innovations, if you disagree with them then show me fps games that had;

quick use grenades, regenerative health, 2 weapon maximum for both campaign and multiplayer, animations for getting into and out of vehicles, boarding of enemy vehicles, theater, matchmaking, dual wielding and four player co-op before Halo. If you can't then stop acting like a fanboy and just admit that your wrong.

I never said Half-Life was a bad game. I've played through all the games including the episodes and I can admit that it was fun. God forbid you on the other hand admit that a console fps is good cause your brain might explode. I'm also very familiar with Half-Life's story and I have to say that I think Halo's is far better, you just have to dig a little harder to really get to the meat of the story.

Read this if you want to even have an inkling of what the Halo story is about

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/the-terminals/ 

In the end the difference between me and you is that I can admit if a game is good regardless of platform because I'm not blinded by elitism or a misguided feeling of self-righteousness and you clearly can't. Get back to me when you've matured a little.

 

Well said dude, I honestly don't get why PC gamers are so threatened by consoles.  Its stupid.



Mendicate Bias said:
ssj12 said:
Mendicate Bias said:

Were the same age, don't act like you've been playing games for 30 plus years. Also trust me just by reading your posts it's pretty clear who the fanboy in this argument is. This is not an argument about opinion this is a factual argument about innovation. I listed Halo's innovations yet you failed to list a single one from half-life. You've closed your mind shut so tight you won't even admit that Bungie is a good developer and you actually think the PC is better than all current gen consoles combined, now tell me that doesn't sound like fanboyism.

Its ok though, if you want to continue to pretend like the real world doesn't exist then go on ahead, who am I to stop you. Just don't spout your elitism like its the truth and expect me to take it laying down.

who cares about Half-Life 2's innovations when you cant even put up a defence against the fact Halo's features are not unique and have been done plenty of times in many other games.

But you want to know what Half-Life and Half-Life 2 brings to the table? Its the way Valve created a character in which you can create his individual persona using your own imagination. You can imagine how his convos go, and what his voice actually sounds like. You do not feel as if you are being pushed or pulled towards the end of the game, you feel as if you are on your own adventure forfilling your own duties to save a unique world. Valve has created a very special way to immerse the player into a false reality so by the end of the game the player feels not just accomplishment that they beat the story or game but that they did something special.

I already listed Halo's innovations, if you disagree with them then show me fps games that had;

quick use grenades, regenerative health, 2 weapon maximum for both campaign and multiplayer, animations for getting into and out of vehicles, boarding of enemy vehicles, theater, matchmaking, dual wielding and four player co-op before Halo. If you can't then stop acting like a fanboy and just admit that your wrong.

I never said Half-Life was a bad game. I've played through all the games including the episodes and I can admit that it was fun. God forbid you on the other hand admit that a console fps is good cause your brain might explode. I'm also very familiar with Half-Life's story and I have to say that I think Halo's is far better, you just have to dig a little harder to really get to the meat of the story.

Read this if you want to even have an inkling of what the Halo story is about

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/halo-3/the-terminals/ 

In the end the difference between me and you is that I can admit if a game is good regardless of platform because I'm not blinded by elitism or a misguided feeling of self-righteousness and you clearly can't. Get back to me when you've matured a little.

 

umm... if you noticed I own many platforms. I love MAG for the PS3, its a great game. I love Resistance. I love Ratchet and Clank.  I find Halo fun to play. I like COD. I like Gears of War.

 



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