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Kantor on 08 February 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Kantor said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kantor said:
I would have to disagree there, Naz. I thought the graphics were pretty damned near perfect, even better than Uncharted 2. Especially in "Sleazy Place"- "Crime Scene" had an interesting art scheme, the quality of which was debatable. But in the hotel, the environments were pretty much perfectly designed, and the character models looked great (even Lauren Winter who looked like a vampire in the early stages of development).

 

Are you serious?

You should know this already >_>

You said they are better than Uncharted 2. You DID NOT, however, tell me they were 'damn near perfect'

Uncharted 2 already had fantastic graphics.

A more cartoonish style, though.



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Slimebeast on 08 February 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
I agree. The graphics of Heavy Rain were always overrated, and the look of the characters is nowhere near the uncanny valley.

I love P&C too and believe the game will be good anyway.

I think it's more realistic to have an opinion on a game you have actually played. I'll take Naz up on his opinion, he's actually played it. Others who have played it have also happily disagreed.

You do know that hey have several beautiful 720p movies of Heavy Rain gameplay at Gamersyde right?

That may be so but you're someone who doesn't agree with fans of other consoles giving opinions on games they don't own the system for or have played. This is one of those instances, except it is you who is judging something you won't be playing in the next few weeks. I'm just saying a video is not the game, even if it's a representation of it. Naz didn't give his feelings based on videos/screenshots/footage. He gave it based on playtime.

Your opinion is fine though, afterall it is just that. Just don't be hypocritical about it.

There's a huge difference between an opinion on just the graphics compared to overall quality of a game.

But you're still judging something you haven't played/won't be playing. Would it be ok for PS-only fans to judge Mass Effect 2? If they won't be buying the game/playing through the game, how can their opinions be anything but inflammatory?

I didn't say you weren't entitled to an opinion, though you can't judge it realistically. But you still would be on the case of others if the shoe was on the other foot, you've proven that.

It's not a big deal however, just an observation. I don't personally mind either way, I know what I'm expecting on the 23rd and many others have said quite the opposite of the visuals.

Yes, when it comes to graphics. It's not hard to evaluate quality of graphics from good in-game footage. Especially a game like Heavy Rain which has a slow pace and has very limited freedom of camera and movement. You don't have to play the game to see the graphics. Good trailers show almost everything there is to see.

Gameplay and overall quality of a game is completely different. That can't be judged very well by only watching in-game footage.

So there's no hypocricy here.



naznatips on 08 February 2010
Kantor said:
I would have to disagree there, Naz. I thought the graphics were pretty damned near perfect, even better than Uncharted 2. Especially in "Sleazy Place"- "Crime Scene" had an interesting art scheme, the quality of which was debatable. But in the hotel, the environments were pretty much perfectly designed, and the character models looked great (even Lauren Winter who looked like a vampire in the early stages of development).



darthdevidem01 on 08 February 2010

The graphics were sub par as I said outside

but inside, in her bedroom for example they were the best visuals I have seen in any game.

Everyone will have different opinions, but the graphics are nothing to worry about here imo, the slightly off voice acting is a bigger worry.

Even then I am nit picking, the demo was amazing.



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Slimebeast on 08 February 2010

I regret that I said "I agree" with Naz though. Heavy Rain looks far better than almost anything out there, on PS3 or elsewhere.

I mainly wanted to point out that the graphics during the hype machine have been overrated, and the humans in Heavy Rain are still far from the 'uncanny valley'.

It's still a fantastic looking game, at least graphically.



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darthdevidem01 on 08 February 2010
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
The graphics were sub par as I said outside

but inside, in her bedroom for example they were the best visuals I have seen in any game.

Everyone will have different opinions, but the graphics are nothing to worry about here imo, the slightly off voice acting is a bigger worry.

Even then I am nit picking, the demo was amazing.

The indoor enviornments and the character models seem to be where they put the most detail. Just look at 'The Taxidermist" scene. The inside of that house was unrivaled visually.

@ slimebeast

This is ultimatley why I say your opinion isn't realistic. To know how this game really looks, you'd have to play it.

I know its as I told you, a painting coming to life.

Her room was so well done, you could tell how much detail & effort went into it, that is the perfection kantor is talking about.

But outside, in the rain..the visuals are a different story, but I am sure they polished them up there.

@Slimebeast

Stop adding oil to the fire



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Slimebeast on 08 February 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Slimebeast said:
I regret that I said "I agree" with Naz though. Heavy Rain looks far better than almost anything out there, on PS3 or elsewhere.

I mainly wanted to point out that the graphics during the hype machine have been overrated, and the humans in Heavy Rain are still far from the 'uncanny valley'.

It's still a fantastic looking game, at least graphically.

As a person who studies 'The Uncanny Valley" likes there's no tomorrow, that's what I think games should be striving for, to avoid 'The Valley' altogether.

True. But since movies have been there already (that Final Fantasy movie, Beowulf, and there's others), some game makers will be tempted to go there too as soon as we got the GPU horsepower.

That original trailer with that angry chick. I dunno if my memory serves me wrong, but I thought that was quite close to uncanny valley, depending on how zoomed in on her the camera was.



Slimebeast on 08 February 2010
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
The graphics were sub par as I said outside

but inside, in her bedroom for example they were the best visuals I have seen in any game.

Everyone will have different opinions, but the graphics are nothing to worry about here imo, the slightly off voice acting is a bigger worry.

Even then I am nit picking, the demo was amazing.

The indoor enviornments and the character models seem to be where they put the most detail. Just look at 'The Taxidermist" scene. The inside of that house was unrivaled visually.

@ slimebeast

This is ultimatley why I say your opinion isn't realistic. To know how this game really looks, you'd have to play it.

Doesn't the green part contradict with the red??

(assuming u havent played the demo, which u said u was going to skip)



chaospluto on 08 February 2010

@OP and Everyone else that weren't impressed by the graphics.

We don't know what build they released with the Demo, there were a lot of glitches I seen so my thinking is it was pretty early build.

I'm more basing off Killzone 2, they showed the graphical improvement and it was amazing. I could see this with Heavy Rain as well.

Either way, I thought the graphics were pretty damn good. I would imagine them getting better by it's release though.



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MasterHien on 08 February 2010

Serious? I thought the graphics was unbelievable yet i was playing it on a TV that has Broken HDMI Port
Graphics was AMAZING and it wasn't even on HDMI
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