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Zlejedi on 09 February 2010

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Who else thinks that's a bit low, and it was judged overly harshly because of the name?

Honestly, a new IP with similar gameplay and graphics would be getting 9s and 10s even if it was linear and the story stank.

I agree with you in 50%. If it was new IP it certainly would be getting higher scores but i don't think current scoring for FF XIII is too low - from what I'm reading everywhere 7s and 8s are justified for the game with this amount of flaws.

Those 7s or 8s only look bad because reviewers love throwing 10s all the place around whenever they see dumbed down shooter-rpg hybrid (last case ME2 which has way too many flaws to qualify for zylions of perfect score, previous examples Fallout 3, ME1 or people trying to call Bioshock a rpg)

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VivaLaWiida on 09 February 2010

Everybody says that they don't care about scores and stupid reviews but they are still writing houndreds of posts about it.
Buy the game and stfu.

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KLucifer on 09 February 2010

IvorEvilen said:

KLucifer said:
let's all blame 360 for this low score???...yeah???...that sounds about right...

ok but for reals....

@chenguo4...

really???...not evolve???...FF series is the one series known to evolve EVERY release or implement something NEW to the jrpg genre...so i guess ff1 ff7 and ff13 all have same gameplay...and hasn't evolved...

there was a HUGE evolution from ff6 to ff7 couple minors in between up to X and then another HUGE evolution in XII...

if it's about not evolving and what not...persona4 should get the trophy for that imo....but persona3 and persona4 was awesome...still pretty much the same game...just some MINOR changes...no big changes like FF series

Just because the game went from 2D to 3D from FFVI to FFVII does not equal "HUGE evolution," although, I do agree that every FF has been very different, the largest change being from X to XII. The only big changes in gameplay between FFVI and FFVII were the inclusion of mini-games to make the story more interactive. Still, Final Fantasy is the most inventive of all the jrpgs, and to claim that it is stuck in the past is like saying FPS shooters need to not involve shooting and first-person point of view... too cliche and overused :O

materia???...first ever supposed in-game cgi??...they tried new stuff...the combat mechanism itself doesn't make the whole game...or else jrpg might as well be a text game....ummm...and come on...MATERIA....i thought materia was awesome....and how about the all famous ruby and emerald weapons....

btw...going from 2d to 3d is a big evolution to me and alot of people...went from playing ff6 to 7...i was like WHOA...THIS IS AWESOME...so yeah...i guess that's just your preference...and to square enix...i should say square soft at that point...it was a big evolution as a company challenging themselves from 2d to 3d...

ffx i think was pretty big change as well...sphere grid...you didn't level up in status points in anyway whatsoever...u had to open up nodes to get ur max mp/hp up....learn new skills...etc....which indirectly opened up the idea of the license board for ffxii...

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ghaleon1980 on 09 February 2010

Why should games that are just glorified dungeon crawlers that havce not evolved much since Dragon Warrior I on NES with better graphics and sound get high scores?

I honestly cannot even play all the way through them anymore. Maybe I've lost patience as I've gotten older....I don't know.

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IvorEvilen on 09 February 2010

KLucifer said:

IvorEvilen said:

KLucifer said:
let's all blame 360 for this low score???...yeah???...that sounds about right...

ok but for reals....

@chenguo4...

really???...not evolve???...FF series is the one series known to evolve EVERY release or implement something NEW to the jrpg genre...so i guess ff1 ff7 and ff13 all have same gameplay...and hasn't evolved...

there was a HUGE evolution from ff6 to ff7 couple minors in between up to X and then another HUGE evolution in XII...

if it's about not evolving and what not...persona4 should get the trophy for that imo....but persona3 and persona4 was awesome...still pretty much the same game...just some MINOR changes...no big changes like FF series

Just because the game went from 2D to 3D from FFVI to FFVII does not equal "HUGE evolution," although, I do agree that every FF has been very different, the largest change being from X to XII. The only big changes in gameplay between FFVI and FFVII were the inclusion of mini-games to make the story more interactive. Still, Final Fantasy is the most inventive of all the jrpgs, and to claim that it is stuck in the past is like saying FPS shooters need to not involve shooting and first-person point of view... too cliche and overused :O

materia???...first ever supposed in-game cgi??...they tried new stuff...the combat mechanism itself doesn't make the whole game...or else jrpg might as well be a text game....ummm...and come on...MATERIA....i thought materia was awesome....and how about the all famous ruby and emerald weapons....

btw...going from 2d to 3d is a big evolution to me and alot of people...went from playing ff6 to 7...i was like WHOA...THIS IS AWESOME...so yeah...i guess that's just your preference...and to square enix...i should say square soft at that point...it was a big evolution as a company challenging themselves from 2d to 3d...

ffx i think was pretty big change as well...sphere grid...you didn't level up in status points in anyway whatsoever...u had to open up nodes to get ur max mp/hp up....learn new skills...etc....which indirectly opened up the idea of the license board for ffxii...

2D to 3D is graphical changes (as well as CGI), and considering most of FFVII was still 2D movement, it really didn't effect gameplay. Materia is basically a smarter Esper system, not that big of a change when you consider the systems in the games before VI and VII. The experience in FFVI is VERY different then FFVII, but the major evolution in gameplay was FFVIII.

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chenguo4 on 10 February 2010

VivaLaWiida said:
Everybody says that they don't care about scores and stupid reviews but they are still writing houndreds of posts about it.
Buy the game and stfu.

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chenguo4 said:

VivaLaWiida said:
Everybody says that they don't care about scores and stupid reviews but they are still writing houndreds of posts about it.
Buy the game and stfu.

100X win.

I don't care about the score. As it will not reflect my opinion of the game or even defer me from buying it. But it seriously just really pisses me off how reviewers are having double standards against JRPGs but all these other genres are getting free passes.

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Bladeforce on 10 February 2010

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