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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Square Enix Head: A "Very Bountiful" 2009, we need games that sell 2-3 mil

saicho on 08 January 2009

a long shot but SE should make TWEWY on Wii...



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

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badgenome on 09 January 2009
ultraslick said:
This is gonna sound a little trollish, but I feel it is what the thread is talking about, so I am sorry if anyone is offended.

SE is so stupid for selling out to Microsoft for all of those games. Microsoft should be ashamed to steal those games, not for personal financial gain or establishment of the 360 in Japan, (because that is impossible)

but instead to prevent the PS3 from having a single JRPG, because Microsoft knows that if Sony were to share these games with the 360, then they would have sold 4 or 5 times the amount they did.

I understand how business works, but this type of hardball from Microsoft, and Selling out from SE is really hard to stomach for me.

Microsoft essentially bought the "failure" of Square Enix's '08 releases.

And that IS why their 2008 was not as great as it could have been.

Think about it; arguably the largest Japanese developer releasing their entire 08 lineup for an American console which barely sells units or moves software for long periods of time in Japan?

- That is idiocy, no matter how you look at it.

I just wonder how big the exclusivity buyouts must have been.

It doesn't sound trollish, but it doesn't sound well thought out, either. I'm always confused by how many people gnash their teeth at Square-Enix for "selling out to Microsoft" and making "all these exclusives" for them. They've released zero to date unless we count The Last Remnant, which is eventually headed to PS3. Infinite Undiscovery was Microsoft's baby, Star Ocean doesn't come out until next year (and may come out for PS3 as well), and Final Fantasy XIII is the one that broke the internetz but it's still multiplat, so... I'll be fucked if I can figure out how Microsoft is to blame for S-E having a bad year.



Cueil on 09 January 2009

SquarEnix pull a Sega and start buying western devs? That's what they need to do.



 
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rukusa on 09 January 2009

Im pretty baffled that they expect their games to sell 2~3 million (talking primarily about HD consoles) and yet they keep them on the 360.

Infinite and Last Remnant sank away quick in Japan, while another JRPG that supposedly isnt very highly regarded sold WAY MORE... I wonder how Wada feels about that. I have no words for Wada's vision. Its close to obvious that their relationship to Microsoft is based on alot of funding.

I just hope Shuhei approaches Square about doing something similiar to that Infinite Undiscovery deal.

With the recent sales of WKC, Sony has enough proof to persuade developers to start making way for their HD RPGs onto the PS3.

And that userbase comment feels like a really weak counter-arguement to why they shouldn't sell em on the PS3. Something I read alot lately on various forums, it feels distaste just reading that atempt to discredit the PS3.

Personally I believe JRPGs belong on the PS3 & Wii.



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outlawauron on 09 January 2009

I imagine the money recieved from the TLR and IU deals compensated for the low sales.



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Kasz216 on 09 January 2009
rukusa said:

Im pretty baffled that they expect their games to sell 2~3 million (talking primarily about HD consoles) and yet they keep them on the 360.

Infinite and Last Remnant sank away quick in Japan, while another JRPG that supposedly isnt very highly regarded sold WAY MORE... I wonder how Wada feels about that. I have no words for Wada's vision. Its close to obvious that their relationship to Microsoft is based on alot of funding.

I just hope Shuhei approaches Square about doing something similiar to that Infinite Undiscovery deal.

With the recent sales of WKC, Sony has enough proof to persuade developers to start making way for their HD RPGs onto the PS3.

And that userbase comment feels like a really weak counter-arguement to why they shouldn't sell em on the PS3. Something I read alot lately on various forums, it feels distaste just reading that atempt to discredit the PS3.

Personally I believe JRPGs belong on the PS3 & Wii.

You know how many Square Enix JRPGs sold 2 million or more on the PS2?

4.

Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts 2.

Thats it.

If 2-3 Million is your bar... PS3 isn't going to cut it... (outside of the aforementioend DQ, FF and KH2.)

Even if the PS3 was the next PS2 it wouldn't cut it.

The Wii is the only hope for such numbers... being the PS2+... and i'd say even that would be tough for JRPGs unless a lot of the expanded audience in the west begins to like JRPGs.  (Which i could see... what with the move at your own pace turn battles.)

They just need to make cheaper games.



Kasz216 on 09 January 2009
Soriku said:
You forgot KH1 Kasz.

Hm.  It didn't show up in my software search.

 

Oh.  It was under "Square EA" as the publisher.

Weird....

Did EA co publish it or something?

My point stands though... unless they plan on making a bunch of new IPS with characters that have been established forever... they've got to learn that they need to back off the cinematic graphics.