Much like Vladimir Putin, they're trying to sell this as a "special operation". 

In the opening attack, US and Israeli soldiers murdered at least 51 girls. Not too much news on this is solid yet. Just that there have been explosions in 5 Iranian cities, and explosions across the Middle East. I'm sure there will be a lot more very soon.

What is the motivation for Trump starting this war? They are trying to market this as either "regime change" or "stop nuclear weapons". The true motivation looks to be in the same vein as the US threats to invade Canada and Greenland: to get the media to and public to stop focusing on the accusation and evidence of crimes relating to pedophilia, rape, and conspiracy for murder.

Oh, and Israel has joined in.

Curious to know what line this POS has to cross before 2/3rds remove him from office. Because there's got to be one. Surely these idiots in congress can see the polls. The American public has turned against him. There would be no repercussions. Republican senators would look like heroes. Everyone would win except the last remaining MAGA Nazi psychos... and who gives a damn about them, anyway?

It would have to be something that makes a lot of Southerners angry enough to turn on him to the degree that people turned on him in Minnesota, especially if it's in Texas, Florida, or Tennessee.  The Senate is still afraid that if they touch so much as a hair on his scaly head that a bunch of neo-Confederates are going to raise a ruckus. 

The Trump administration most likely wants to install the grandson of the late shah in power in Iran. The shah was overthrown twice by the Iranian people, but the Pahlavis, who are now living in exile in the United States, act like Iran is their personal property. The shah was a brutal despot who used his SAVAK, which was armed by the U.S., to violently put down dissent. 

Let me be clear, the current Iranian government sucks. Iran is a texbook example of why ancient Bronze Age texts should not be used as governing documents in the 21st century. But for Iran, it will be moving from one bad regime to another one, one that will basically be a puppet to a country on another continent thousands of miles away. 

I am against the US intervening in other countries internal affairs too, but to be honest I really can't make up my mind this time.
Iran has repeatedly reached far out of its borders, mostly by funding terrorist ogranisations and selling weapons to Russia for its war in Ukraine.

Funding terrorism has led to sanctions from the West, which sanctions have contributed to an economic crisis.
People are literally starving and are not even allowed to protest about it, in a country of 90m people.

And the result is this:



What if a regime change can make the world safer and Iran a prosperous country?

That's mostly propaganda. See what was attacked and who were killed in Iran during the protests and where the weapons came from.

Yes there is economic unrest from decades of sanctions, yet those protests were stoked up and turned violent by outside influence.

As for funding terrorist organizations, no country does that more than US and Israel. One countries terrorist's are another countries resistance fighters.


I'm not saying the Iranian regime is any good, yet this is a unilateral act of war by the US and Israel putting the whole ME and possibly the world at risk.

Mohammad Radmehr, the governor of Mindab county, where the purported strike took place, said the toll had risen to at least 63 students with a further 92 injured. Others were still trapped under the rubble, he added.

“The destroyed building is a primary school for girls in the south of Iran. It was bombed in broad daylight, when packed with young pupils,” said Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Aragghchi in a post on X.

CNN has geolocated video from the scene to the Shajaba Tayyiba School in Southern Minab. It sits about 200 feet from an Iranian military base, and previously appears to have been part of the base, but satellite imagery shows that it has been separated from the base since at least 2016.

Asked about the strike, CENTCOM spokesperson Tim Hawkins said “we are aware of reports concerning civilian harm resulting from ongoing military operations. We take these reports seriously and are looking into them. The protection of civilians is of utmost importance, and we will continue to take all precautions available to minimize the risk of unintended harm.”


Trump just massacred dozens of Iranian school girls, job well done.




Regime change doesn't work, see 1953 CIA / MI6 coup of Iran that installed the brutal Shaw they want to re-install again. History repeating.

I agree that they keep pushing forward because they lack consequences. But I don’t think “leave it all up to an opposition party in the government to stop the ruling government party,” is a winnable strategy.

This is in the hands of the American people. If the American people have defected, then the power and ability to end this is in the hands of the American people. Right now, the Epstein billionaire class wins because they’re coordinated, and the American people aren’t. But the American people vastly outnumber them in numbers, so coordination efforts wouldn’t even take all that many to topple the Epstein class.

Ruling Classes keep their power by using their coordination to create culture war issues: X is a threat to your children, religion against religion against irreligion, ethnicity against ethnicity, skin colour against skin colour, creating in groups and outgroups as part of the national fabric → and I’m not even talking about the US here, I’m talking about Bismarckian (State Socialism) and interwar Germany (National Socialism); just that the parallels are obvious.

As a side-note, State Socialism and National Socialism in Germany are not to be mistaken for Socialism, just like you shouldn’t mistake American Liberalism for small classical liberalism or Neoliberalism in American English. A side note, but it illustrates the problem with language and propaganda: how coordinated classes can equivocate to fool people who lack critical thought on the subject, and those people see logic where none exists.

But, back to my main point: all these culture wars, religion, racism, hatred of the other, they’re people whose prejudices grew out of propaganda and ignorance; buying into a story and associating their self-identity with that. This is to distract people from the real struggle. It has always been class-based: the much larger lower class versus the small but highly coordinated upper class. 

There are things that the American people can do if they have abandoned Trump and the Epstein ruling class. And it’s not asking the politicians who lost the last election, or even those who lost the primaries before the last election. All of that (by the rules of the American system) not only won’t work, but can’t work. But coordination among American people can work. First, Americans need to have a new story; the obvious one is American Democracy vs. the Epstein class, and this is something all of Western civilization can get behind; next there are three general action points American people can take:

1. Civil disobedience. This is your Gandhi stuff: disrupt the institutions and clarify that pushback will be met with increased disruption.

2. Organized labour strikes/general strikes. This will shut down the productivity of the machine on which these billionaires leach off of. This is your labour! They’re just scraping and coordinating the management to allow them to keep scraping.

3. Economics: Stop buying products from businesses run by this class of people and their supporters; that doesn’t even mean no big business, there are big businesses in the US who aren’t complicit (like Costco). This one is a bit of a pain, but other non-American countries are already doing this. There will be a few products that individuals and people around you buy regularly; figure out if they come from Epstein class-owned businesses, and then if there is an alternate source. There are also taxes, the “Robin Hood” side of this - but I don’t know enough about US tax law to navigate this, but perhaps someone can suggest how to hurt the machine.

All three things above have been used to topple regimes through history. But, whenever a class like the Epstein class comes to rule, their power is always just a mirage. And the world won’t end without them. It’s liberation.

You can be against the Iranian theocracy and its right-wing political parties and also be against Israel and the US’s military invasion. The motivations of the US/Israel and actions have nothing to do with the plight of the Iranian people; that conflict is merely a convenience for them. The current Iranian regime was facing an increased likelihood of ending without this attack. I’d argue that past Trump military assaults have been counterproductive toward natural social change in Iran.

If it hadn’t been for Trump’s sabotage around 2018, my guess is Iran and the West would be increasing openness, and continued compromises in the theocratic rules would move forward. The West and Iran were opening until Trump stepped over Western Civilization to launch military strikes and assassinations in Iran during his first term (that was Trump’s fault, not Iran’s) → you can see videos of Westerners, even Americans, enjoying vacations in Iran, seeing Shiraz and the Tomb of Cyrus of the Great.

Carney backs U.S. action against Iranian nuclear program



He's a banker, wouldn't surprise me if he's in the Epstein files as well. The liberals have lost my vote for life. The propaganda machine is at full tilt.

And where do we draw the line at bad governments? The Philippines is being torn apart by the feud between Bongbong Marcos and Sara Duterte, the latter of which is likely to be their next president since Bongbong is limited to a single term under their constitution. We kept his brutal asshole of a father in power for 20 years and hosted Ferdinand, Imelda, Bongbong, and the rest of that sorry tribe in Hawaii for a decade in exile. Trump has been giving billions to try and keep Bongbong from being ousted by Duterte supporters. Trump liked Rodrigo Duterte for his extrajudicial murders, until Duterte started trying to improve relations with China. 

Why don't they do "regime change" in Moscow or Budapest? 

Prince Bonesaw is a brutal Wahabbist dictator with even less regard for women's rights or basic human rights than Khamenei - Iranian women have always been allowed to drive cars even under the Ayatollah, but Saudi women only gained the right to drive in 2018. Polygamy is far more common in Saudi Arabia than in Iran. But hey, there's a Chili's in Riyadh, so he's a-okay, right?

Hell, a lot of the policies being enacted in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma are similar to the policies in these Islamist regimes, they're just being done in the name of Jesus rather than Muhammad.