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Jumpin said:
dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I am against the US intervening in other countries internal affairs too, but to be honest I really can't make up my mind this time.
Iran has repeatedly reached far out of its borders, mostly by funding terrorist ogranisations and selling weapons to Russia for its war in Ukraine.

Funding terrorism has led to sanctions from the West, which sanctions have contributed to an economic crisis.
People are literally starving and are not even allowed to protest about it, in a country of 90m people.

And the result is this:



What if a regime change can make the world safer and Iran a prosperous country?

You can be against the Iranian theocracy and its right-wing political parties and also be against Israel and the US’s military invasion. The motivations of the US/Israel and actions have nothing to do with the plight of the Iranian people; that conflict is merely a convenience for them. The current Iranian regime was facing an increased likelihood of ending without this attack. I’d argue that past Trump military assaults have been counterproductive toward natural social change in Iran.

If it hadn’t been for Trump’s sabotage around 2018, my guess is Iran and the West would be increasing openness, and continued compromises in the theocratic rules would move forward. The West and Iran were opening until Trump stepped over Western Civilization to launch military strikes and assassinations in Iran during his first term (that was Trump’s fault, not Iran’s) → you can see videos of Westerners, even Americans, enjoying vacations in Iran, seeing Shiraz and the Tomb of Cyrus of the Great.

And where do we draw the line at bad governments? The Philippines is being torn apart by the feud between Bongbong Marcos and Sara Duterte, the latter of which is likely to be their next president since Bongbong is limited to a single term under their constitution. We kept his brutal asshole of a father in power for 20 years and hosted Ferdinand, Imelda, Bongbong, and the rest of that sorry tribe in Hawaii for a decade in exile. Trump has been giving billions to try and keep Bongbong from being ousted by Duterte supporters. Trump liked Rodrigo Duterte for his extrajudicial murders, until Duterte started trying to improve relations with China. 

Why don't they do "regime change" in Moscow or Budapest? 

Prince Bonesaw is a brutal Wahabbist dictator with even less regard for women's rights or basic human rights than Khamenei - Iranian women have always been allowed to drive cars even under the Ayatollah, but Saudi women only gained the right to drive in 2018. Polygamy is far more common in Saudi Arabia than in Iran. But hey, there's a Chili's in Riyadh, so he's a-okay, right?

Hell, a lot of the policies being enacted in Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma are similar to the policies in these Islamist regimes, they're just being done in the name of Jesus rather than Muhammad.