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So I've been seeing a pattern for some time now. While the PS5 and the XBoxX are selling well, they are heavily bottlenecked by the lack of stock, and that's hampering their sales. Meanwhile the Switch is still selling record numbers, and it's going to be the biggest platform for console gaming for years to come (at least in current gen). This is causing the sales of current gen software sales to be much smaller than they ought to be on PS5/XBoxX, and many games are still releasing on the PS4 since they can be played on the new hardware anyway.

How is this going to affect the software development landscape in the next few years? Will we see 3rd parties start to move development towards the Switch more? Will we see the support for the PS4/XBOne last much longer than previous gens did? Or is this just a brief pause and devs will move on sooner than later?



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If I'm not mistaken didn't many developers complain about Xbox series S and the Switch is less powerful than Xbox one vanilla? I think Developers will still continue doing 9th gen systems and moreso, Got modern games already from strong indies games like these, The Medium, kena bridge , returnal , exomecha , the ascent , second extinction etc and we still have Resident evil village and elden ring and many more AAA 3rd party going for power . only developers that make for switch are games made from ground up on switch hardware like octopath traveller , monster hunter rise , and mario + rabbits which Nintendo will always get. There will always be games like Monster Hunter world hypothetically Monster Hunter World 2 made for the ground up for Xbox series X and PS5 hardware in mind and A Monster Hunter Rise 2 exclusively for Switch , This gen will feel more like Sega Genesis and SNES in 4th gen? might be wrong? But it's better than a downgraded port. Genesis had Ghost and goblins vs Super ghost and goblins both play differently and are different in many ways same with contra hard corps and contra 3 and then we have castlevania bloodlines vs super castlevania etc . Though I might be wrong? But I heard there's a Resident Evil revelations 3 exclusive to Nintendo Switch? So, I'm guessing it's gonna be another Genesis vs SNES without the extreme console wars and where everybody wins . 



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Too early in the gen to claim anything, or act all doom and gloom for the new consoles. There is no conclusive data available to warrant being worried about the new consoles. In fact, the first year for most consoles share similar progression.

This thread screams of wishful thinking, similar to the usual port begging ones.




I wonder what the cost is to make a demanding AAA game for the PS5 and series X.



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Darwinianevolution said:

How is this going to affect the software development landscape in the next few years? Will we see 3rd parties start to move development towards the Switch more? Will we see the support for the PS4/XBOne last much longer than previous gens did? Or is this just a brief pause and devs will move on sooner than later?

It's a very good question to ask. My guess is developers will do one of two things. The first option is they'll make their games cross gen. Generation 8 had a good hold over year where a lot of games had both a PS3/360 version and a PS4/One version. I expect what will happen again and publishers will have both generations running simultaneously for a good 2-3 years. This has a possibility of hurting Generation 9 sales, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms. The other possibility (which I expect many Japanese developers to take) is prioritize Switch as their main platform. Since the system going strong in their home country and third party games are selling well, they may be inclined to just focus on Switch for the foreseeable future. 

I think software sales are the ones to watch. The systems are doing well due to FOMO and scalpers buying them up whenever they are available. However, the software isn't, and this is how the publishers make their money. 



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It happens pretty much every generation hence the "cross gen period." They will develop for ps4/x1 until the next gen has a reasonable amount of sales. The switch will only come into play if the publisher thinks it's worth putting in the extra effort as it will get harder and harder to port down to the switch. Hopefully the rumored switch pro or switch 2 will be out before it really starts going.



             

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Happens every console generation. The only time this doesn't happen is consoles that "failed". The Wii and DS still got major titles 1-2 years even when the Wii U and 3DS were out. Since the Wii U failed Nintendo and 3rd parties didn't support it after the Switch came out whereas, the 3DS succeeded and still got major titles in 2017 and 2018 from Nintendo and 3rd parties.
It all really depends on how successful the previous consoles were. Microsoft, Sony and 3rd parties just cannot ignore the Xbox One or PS4 yet with how successful they were and how much software sales they still get from them.



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Just say it outloud Darwin. You just want Persona 6 on Switch, ain't I right ?

I mean, I wouldn't mind it coming to the Switch...



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I'm thinking the PS4 and X1 will continue being supported for a while longer. Same as all the fairly successful consoles in recent memory.

  • One of the best-selling games on the PS1 was Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone, which was released a year a year after the PS2.
  • The PS2 was technically replaced by the PS3 in 2006, but as late as 2009 it was still getting million-sellers like FIFA Soccer 10, PES 2010, and DDR X2.
  • Even after the GBA had to compete with the DS and PSP from late 2004 onward, it continued getting plenty of games for a couple of years. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon was originally a cross-gen multiplatform game as late as Autumn 2006, and VGChartz mentions that a couple of GBA titles sold over a million units despite launching as late as 2007.
  • The DS was succeeded by the 3DS in early 2011, and in 2012 still got a main series Pokemon game, Pokemon Conquest, and multiplatform LEGO games.
  • The Wii was replaced by the Wii U in 2012, but got its last million seller in 2016, despite mostly dying down after 2010. (Just Dance on the Wii was quite the phenomenon).
  • The PS3 and Xbox 360 were phased out in 2013 after what were fairly long lives for consoles, especially the X360, yet in 2015 and even 2016, games like Call of Duty, FIFA, Minecraft: Story Mode, NBA 2K, Madden NFL, LEGO games.

Unless hardware shortages remain in place for years to come, I see no reason we'd be getting more development on the Switch than usual.



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