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This looks promising, and it’ll make PC/Series X development all the smoother.



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That is good for the strategy of play anywhere of MS.
The funny part is when they banner of the announcement talks NVidia while their partner is AMD on Xbox.



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Foveated rendering support? Niiice. All the new tricks these days like this and VRS should really stretch our hardware dollars a lot further.



ah that must have been the nvidia update i got today

edit : nope was the doom update :)

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This reminds me an awful lot of the time we had the horrendous DX 10, and MS then over time, proceeded to update us to DX 10.1. DX 12 has gone pretty badly for me since it's release. I've tried many a game that's offered it, and in turn it's given me worse performance that simply using DX 11. Game mode didn't really do much for me either.

I just feel like these "game" OS updates do more harm to my gameplay performance than than any good they could possibly do. Also doesn't help that this new DX version is limited to the current RTX lineup, which costs an arm & leg for. Would have been nice to have this sorted out for the 1000 series, because I'm waiting on the 3000 series, and tbh, this "in-between" update just feels like it's going to be naff for me, for when I do update to the 3000 series. 

I want to be hopeful, but MS has screwed things up for me in the past, numerous times, to a point where I've lost faith in their OS "game" updates. Would have been stellar, had they got this working for my 1080ti, and not have it screwed over. 

You know what I'd like to see a unification of?: Vulkan support, instead of being locked to a single card series (of course NV would be delighted, because they want everyone selling their souls for their expensive RTX line, and ignoring anything before it).

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Sounds interesting, DX12 Ultimate does sound like the finished product and hopefully it implements well.
I have a question about the SSD in the Series X.. do you think its possible that MS can make a new SSD sold separately that will be faster than the one that comes with the machine which will boost load times or is it going to remain the same speed through-out its life circle?



Azzanation said:
Sounds interesting, DX12 Ultimate does sound like the finished product and hopefully it implements well.
I have a question about the SSD in the Series X.. do you think its possible that MS can make a new SSD sold separately that will be faster than the one that comes with the machine which will boost load times or is it going to remain the same speed through-out its life circle?

maybe in XSX1.5, otherwise not likely



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kirby007 said:
Azzanation said:
Sounds interesting, DX12 Ultimate does sound like the finished product and hopefully it implements well.
I have a question about the SSD in the Series X.. do you think its possible that MS can make a new SSD sold separately that will be faster than the one that comes with the machine which will boost load times or is it going to remain the same speed through-out its life circle?

maybe in XSX1.5, otherwise not likely

Ok thanks, curious to see how they will react to the PS5 SSD with the console refresh, weather they compete or just focus on raw numbers.



Chazore said:

This reminds me an awful lot of the time we had the horrendous DX 10, and MS then over time, proceeded to update us to DX 10.1. DX 12 has gone pretty badly for me since it's release. I've tried many a game that's offered it, and in turn it's given me worse performance that simply using DX 11. Game mode didn't really do much for me either.

I just feel like these "game" OS updates do more harm to my gameplay performance than than any good they could possibly do. Also doesn't help that this new DX version is limited to the current RTX lineup, which costs an arm & leg for. Would have been nice to have this sorted out for the 1000 series, because I'm waiting on the 3000 series, and tbh, this "in-between" update just feels like it's going to be naff for me, for when I do update to the 3000 series. 

I want to be hopeful, but MS has screwed things up for me in the past, numerous times, to a point where I've lost faith in their OS "game" updates. Would have been stellar, had they got this working for my 1080ti, and not have it screwed over. 

You know what I'd like to see a unification of?: Vulkan support, instead of being locked to a single card series (of course NV would be delighted, because they want everyone selling their souls for their expensive RTX line, and ignoring anything before it).

DX 10 was a huge step up from DX9. But since the consoles only could handle DX9, they only used DX10 as an additional layer above DX9 instead of programming for it from the start. That's why DX10 seemed so horrendous, it had the worst possible timing to launch.

Let's hope this doesn't reproduce this time again and that the RDNA2 in the next gen consoles can fully handle DX12U