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Goodnightmoon said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Negative feedback is 100x more valuable. It helps make games better

Absolutely false.

When a fanbase is constantly complaining about absolutely everything then it becomes pure noise, a constant loud noise that never changes, and when there are REAL reasons to complain, the noise just stay the same as always so the company barely senses any difference and they cannot trust the noise because is always there no matter if they are doing it right or wrong, making the feedback almost useless.

Whiny fanbases are more hurtful than they seem.

Frozen smiles and nodding heads are far, far worse.  There's a reason there's a term called "Yes Men".  There is no term for the opposite, because they're called "human beings".

KLXVER said:
spemanig said:

It all makes sense now! Star Fox Zero! 10/10! Too much quality!

Just go back to SF64 and forget that Zero even exists...

Quite the paradox you present.



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IkePoR said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Absolutely false.

When a fanbase is constantly complaining about absolutely everything then it becomes pure noise, a constant loud noise that never changes, and when there are REAL reasons to complain, the noise just stay the same as always so the company barely senses any difference and they cannot trust the noise because is always there no matter if they are doing it right or wrong, making the feedback almost useless.

Whiny fanbases are more hurtful than they seem.

Frozen smiles and nodding heads are far, far worse.  There's a reason there's a term called "Yes Men".  There is no term for the opposite, because they're called "human beings".

No the opposite are called whiners.
There is a rational point in between.



I'm just saying that a fanbase that thought Nintendo had forgotten about their favorite franchise, they sure are judgmental when it comes to Star Fox Zero.



Goodnightmoon said:
IkePoR said:

Frozen smiles and nodding heads are far, far worse.  There's a reason there's a term called "Yes Men".  There is no term for the opposite, because they're called "human beings".

No the opposite are called whiners.
There is a rational point in between.

Am I to understand that you will be the one to define this point between the two?  

Let's be real: whiners is a word you know isn't a flame that you use to belittle those who disagree with you.  Those who don't kneel with their tongues hanging out when Nintendo empties the portable urinals.



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Pavolink said:
None said anything bad about Pikmin 3. Everyone knew it was a Wii game and all of us were excited to see the progress if P3 was only a launch trailer.

3DWorld is still not a real 3D Adventure Mario. Yes, it is. Just because it's not Galaxy or 64, makes it not a real 3D game? That is flawed logic. It is a 3D Mario game in its purest form, platforming challenged, in 3D, a Three-Dimensional Camera, just because it's based off of the 2D formula makes it not a real 3D Adventure Mario? Bowser still kidnaps someone, Mario still has to go on a platforming adventure to stop him, all in 3D. It is a 3D Mario game, whether you like or not.
Just because it's based on the 2D formula, doesn't make it any less 3D than the games before it, and it's a DAMN good game as well.


ALBW is still a copy of ALTTP. Well isn't it supposed to be a direct sequel or reimagination? And it's still a fine game in its own right and many consider one of the best if not THE best on the 3DS.

TPHD is still an underwhelming remaster. What, you were expecting the Tech Demo?
Looks pretty good to a lot of people.

You know, you're beginning to get on my nerves with your constant pessimistic attitude, I almost dread any new Nintendo news that comes out because I'm think: "Oh great, more things for Pavolink to bitch about!"
I'm not going to say you shouldn't have an opinion, because you have a right to your opinion, but to constantly spout negativity OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again and do so in a manner like it's the absolute truth, it's downright migraine inducing at times, and people are beginning to gloss over what you have to say because it's turned into "Oh great, what's he going to moan about this time?" Your reputation is unfortunately beginning to percede you.
You've been acting like this ever since Zelda Wii U was delayed, and you're STILL complaining about, it's been ONE year already man!
Oh Zelda got delayed! SO HAS EVERY OTHER 3D ZELDA WITH THE EXCEPTIONs OF MAJORA'S MASK AND WIND WAKER, THIS IS NOTHING NEW!
And they've always delivered when it came to 3D Zelda's haven't they? Every single title was critically acclaimed and beloved, and Zelda Wii U looks like no exception.
I was looking forward to it coming out in 2015 just as much as you were, you didn't see me bitching when it got delayed, did you?
MAN UP!



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spemanig said:
Let's not pretend for a second that star fox looks better now.

Don't take our word for it; look at this comparison video instead:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IMR3bEimGs



PAOerfulone said:
Pavolink said:
None said anything bad about Pikmin 3. Everyone knew it was a Wii game and all of us were excited to see the progress if P3 was only a launch trailer.

3DWorld is still not a real 3D Adventure Mario. Yes, it is. Just because it's not Galaxy or 64, makes it not a real 3D game? That is flawed logic. It is a 3D Mario game in its purest form, platforming challenged, in 3D, a Three-Dimensional Camera, just because it's based off of the 2D formula makes it not a real 3D Adventure Mario? Bowser still kidnaps someone, Mario still has to go on a platforming adventure to stop him, all in 3D. It is a 3D Mario game, whether you like or not.
Just because it's based on the 2D formula, doesn't make it any less 3D than the games before it, and it's a DAMN good game as well.


ALBW is still a copy of ALTTP. Well isn't it supposed to be a direct sequel or reimagination? And it's still a fine game in its own right and many consider one of the best if not THE best on the 3DS.

TPHD is still an underwhelming remaster. What, you were expecting the Tech Demo?
Looks pretty good to a lot of people.

You know, you're beginning to get on my nerves with your constant pessimistic attitude, I almost dread any new Nintendo news that comes out because I'm think: "Oh great, more things for Pavolink to bitch about!"
I'm not going to say you shouldn't have an opinion, because you have a right to your opinion, but to constantly spout negativity OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again and do so in a manner like it's the absolute truth, it's downright migraine inducing at times, and people are beginning to gloss over what you have to say because it's turned into "Oh great, what's he going to moan about this time?" Your reputation is unfortunately beginning to percede you.
You've been acting like this ever since Zelda Wii U was delayed, and you're STILL complaining about, it's been ONE year already man!
Oh Zelda got delayed! SO HAS EVERY OTHER 3D ZELDA WITH THE EXCEPTIONs OF MAJORA'S MASK AND WIND WAKER, THIS IS NOTHING NEW!
And they've always delivered when it came to 3D Zelda's haven't they? Every single title was critically acclaimed and beloved, and Zelda Wii U looks like no exception.
I was looking forward to it coming out in 2015 just as much as you were, you didn't see me bitching when it got delayed, did you?
MAN UP!

You missed the word Adventure. Also, it's impossible to not be negative about a company that makes mistake after mistake, like Federation Force or Color Splash.

Oh, and you don't know anything about Zelda delays.



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I'm honestly very surprised that I can manage to be part of the Nintendo fandom xDDDDD. I mean, I considered I could be very critical with Nintendo when I think they make something wrong. What was my surprise that I came out as a defender with time. Because I really think that these days the fandom is being overcritical, and some occasions I even feel... ashamed. Like when those awfully stupid "cancel this game" petitions, which managed to get a lot of signatures (sorry if I offend anyone who supported them, but my opinion is still the same, they're stupid). I like constructive criticism, and I think it's great to argue about Nintendo's games and decisions, it's impossible to pretende that everyone shares a same opinion about anything. But sometimes the criticisms are so OTT that I could only... facepalm and shut up.



Pavolink said:
PAOerfulone said:

You know, you're beginning to get on my nerves with your constant pessimistic attitude, I almost dread any new Nintendo news that comes out because I'm think: "Oh great, more things for Pavolink to bitch about!"
I'm not going to say you shouldn't have an opinion, because you have a right to your opinion, but to constantly spout negativity OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again and do so in a manner like it's the absolute truth, it's downright migraine inducing at times, and people are beginning to gloss over what you have to say because it's turned into "Oh great, what's he going to moan about this time?" Your reputation is unfortunately beginning to percede you.
You've been acting like this ever since Zelda Wii U was delayed, and you're STILL complaining about, it's been ONE year already man!
Oh Zelda got delayed! SO HAS EVERY OTHER 3D ZELDA WITH THE EXCEPTIONs OF MAJORA'S MASK AND WIND WAKER, THIS IS NOTHING NEW!
And they've always delivered when it came to 3D Zelda's haven't they? Every single title was critically acclaimed and beloved, and Zelda Wii U looks like no exception.
I was looking forward to it coming out in 2015 just as much as you were, you didn't see me bitching when it got delayed, did you?
MAN UP!

You missed the word Adventure. Also, it's impossible to not be negative about a company that makes mistake after mistake, like Federation Force or Color Splash.

Oh, and you don't know anything about Zelda delays.

And YOU missed the praise "platforming adventure" during my point about 3D World.
And just because Federation Force and Color Splash aren't the games you were looking for from their respective franchises, they're supposed to be mistakes?
I can see that it was dumb with Color Splash given how Sticker Star isn't popular, but the whole "cancel this game" petitions are beyond stupid considering there is an audience of people who are looking foward to both of those games, just because you weren't that doesn't make your word or opinion matter more than theirs.
And I know enough about Zelda delays that they happen frequently, Twilight Princess was delayed for close to 2 years so that it could be a Wii launch title, Skyward Sword was supposed to be in 2010, but ended up being the Wii's swan song in 2011. Ocarina of Time was originally 1997 and then pushed back to 1998, Majora's Mask and Wind Waker are the only 3D games that weren't delayed.
So I know the context, I ALSO know not to let something so minimal as a video game delay put me in a legitmate bad mood for the forseeable future, make me feel bad, and ruin my day like you have let it do.
I know enough about delays in general that they are done to give the game more time and more resources, and that a better game is worth waitng for. And I FACEPALM every time I here someone act like their lives are on the line whenever there is a rumor NOT LEGIT NEWS, A RUMOR, about Star Fox being delayed again.
I mean, seriously?!?
It's just a freaking video game, it's not life & death!
I don't work for the company, I don't have stocks invested in them, I'm not going to let something like THAT bother me, because the fact of the matter is I have more important things in my life to take care of, that requre my attention, and I can't afford to let something so mismal, pety, and pathetic like THAT distract or put me down. How is a company's development and release cycles going to geniunely affect my everyday life? What is the correlation between the two?
And if your happiness, emotions, and attitude are actually, legitimately dependent on THAT, then that says more about YOU and than the company in question.

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Volterra_90 said:
I'm honestly very surprised that I can manage to be part of the Nintendo fandom xDDDDD. I mean, I considered I could be very critical with Nintendo when I think they make something wrong. What was my surprise that I came out as a defender with time. Because I really think that these days the fandom is being overcritical, and some occasions I even feel... ashamed. Like when those awfully stupid "cancel this game" petitions, which managed to get a lot of signatures (sorry if I offend anyone who supported them, but my opinion is still the same, they're stupid). I like constructive criticism, and I think it's great to argue about Nintendo's games and decisions, it's impossible to pretende that everyone shares a same opinion about anything. But sometimes the criticisms are so OTT that I could only... facepalm and shut up.

I just complain when I feel there are something to complain about. Which there has been alot to complain about in the last year, but its still Nintendo. When they deliver, they REALLY deliver. I complain, but I never even entertain the thought of quitting on them.