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As many of you may know I'm a pretty big MS guy, so the NPD numbers are clearly disappointing.  The $499 price tag is obviously a problem but is it fair to say that probably wont be enough.  

In addition to a price cut MS is going to need to go on the offensive, public firings of department heads and recruitment of well estabished game makers positioned at high leveles in the xbox division.  Gamers clearly have lost confidence in MS and if you want regain confidence you need to make sure heads roll.

what do you guys think?  I know we have a lot of sony fans on this site but lets try and keep the comments constructive and not a flame war, in fact I'd like to hear from some of the bigger sony fans on this site about what MS could do to improve its reputation. 



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Price cut + money hatting some big third party game is probably what its going to take for MS.



The Xbox One, though it took a dip in January, is still tracking above most consoles.... ever. 80k base is good. Big games are on the horizon.



You're right. It needs more than just the price cut but a price cut will probably be enough to catch up in US.
In Europe it probably needs another price cut to undercut the PS4 by 100€ to make much of a difference.



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Price cut is definitely not enough. What MS needs to do is get rid of Kinect. Then drop the price to $349. Then flood the market with good exclusives. Of course, MS may not do any of them. At least, not any time soon. They'll probably hold out til Titanfall, to see what that game does. Of course, by then the gap will probably be 500K+ in the US.

After Titanfall, they are either going to keep the Kinect and lower the price to $449, or get rid of the Kinect and drop the price to $399. Either way, it will still put it at the same price as the PS4, while being less powerful, which still isn't going to fly for most consumers. And they don't have enough studios power to constantly churn out good quality exclusives. About half, maybe more, of their studios are probably working on Kinect games and/or apps. The other studios aren't ready to launch games, yet, with their largest franchise not being read til 2015. Which is why MS has to resort to purchasing 3rd party exclusives, ones that will most likely make their way onto the PS4 in a year or so, whether as a port or sequel.

Of course, these changes are only mostly going to boost sales in NA. Every where else, like EU and Japan, its pretty much over.



ironmanDX said:
The Xbox One, though it took a dip in January, is still tracking above most consoles.... ever. 80k base is good. Big games are on the horizon.


I Agree with this, Not only that but Xbox just sold a massive amount in it's first month, these people usually are the ones who buy later, so the numbers are low but I think a price cut is needed.

They need to also address some of their bad ideas. For Instance DRM was not polled enough to know what the gamers wanted. They should have understood this from the beginning, gamers don't forget things like this.

Also with big games Like Titanfall, make a special xbox, this will get people hyped for the game and the system that is exclusive to them. From reading online, they where going to do it but decided to not go with it because of some extra cost. This was a bad idea. People would have bought the sh-t out of that system. If it was going to lose a little money, well those same people need xbox live to play the game don't they? So they would have made the money right back, almost instantly.

They have made great strides forward but the lack of  Kinect support, being that it makes the xbox $100 dollars more is a little bit depressing. People like using it to navigate but some want it for games, not all the menu options, thats not worth the $100 more, the games are though. So games should have been ready, like it was for the Launch of the original kinect. Maybe not as many but good games. Like Dance Cenral, Kinect Sports, Push the work out aspect of it. People love new ways to get fit.

This should have been ready by launch and not only a download Idea, it should have been ready to be bought off of store shelfs. The internet is to high priced and way to slow of speed to expect people to jump ship. I know they have some out there but they need Commercials showing people using the new kinect, showing everything new, takes your heartbeat, has sex with you, I don't know. Sell the damn thing. I haven't seen any on Kinect. accept some dude talking to it. They need to push this aspect if they want the people to cough up the extra $100. Maybe a 2 sided commercial.

"TITANFALL, then boom Kinect sports, this March get your game on. " Not someone on the coach watching a fucking football game talking shit to his body. cool but not going to get the gamers.

The top execs need to get out of their rewarding lifes and get down to our level, to see what is easy to pay for and digest. This, I think, is the issue, They go home to the highest speed internet and think everyone has this access. They don't. People are working off horrible crap that comcast pushes on them. Constantly bull-shit and headaches, even here in chicago. (C'mon google fiber!)

So really they need to re-address the gamer as well as the casual. The casual doesn't want to get internet, XBox Live, and all this to work out, They want to pop it in and work out or play games or what have you.

Their PR has been ok but They need another round when titanfall and Kinect sports comes out. However they do need to cut price as soon as possible.  For the hardcore crowd, they don't see paying extra $100 for kinect as being worth it, however if it's the same price with all the great games. Why not.



thismeintiel said:
Price cut is definitely not enough. What MS needs to do is get rid of Kinect. Then drop the price to $349. Then flood the market with good exclusives. Of course, MS may not do any of them. At least, not any time soon. They'll probably hold out til Titanfall, to see what that game does. Of course, by then the gap will probably be 500K+ in the US.

After Titanfall, they are either going to keep the Kinect and lower the price to $449, or get rid of the Kinect and drop the price to $399. Either way, it will still put it at the same price as the PS4, while being less powerful, which still isn't going to fly for most consumers. And they don't have enough studios power to constantly churn out good quality exclusives. About half, maybe more, of their studios are probably working on Kinect games and/or apps. The other studios aren't ready to launch games, yet, with their largest franchise not being read til 2015. Which is why MS has to resort to purchasing 3rd party exclusives, ones that will most likely make their way onto the PS4 in a year or so, whether as a port or sequel.

Of course, these changes are only mostly going to boost sales in NA. Every where is, like EU and Japan, its pretty much over.

Xbox One at 399 with kinect I think is better, this way they can compete on both levels. The casuals will buy in but not for this price. 399, maybe.



Speaking for myself, I want more single player games. Microsoft has the online FPS crowd with Titanfall exclusivity and various map pack deals. Killer Instinct is there for the fighting game crowd. What's in it for someone who loves single player games? Ryse is much too short and Dead Rising 3 is not enough to make me buy a $500 console.

Games like Quantum Break, D4, and Fable are getting my interest. They might get me to buy the Xbox One. Fable, Alan Wake, and Oblivion are why I got my 360.

Second, I feel like the Xbox One is not for me. I am not the type of gamer Microsoft is marketing to. I am not into online games and prefer Hulu and Netflix to cable. Single player exclusives are pretty much the only way I will buy an Xbox One.



Price parity with the PS4 would stop the situation from being worse, but no it certainly wouldn't turn things around. Microsoft needs to give gamers in mass a reason to get the system over the more popular PS4. Games games games are the way to go, as well as exclusive features.