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Tagged for later. I might post a mass evolutionary spiel as many people seem ignorant as to some of the details regarding evolution... or in some cases, anything related to evolution at all.



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To answer the original question:

1. Culture, socialization, and stability of group attachments: If there is one thing we know, group attachments are incredibly stable over time, so it is very difficult to change these once they take root, and Americans have a long history of religious belief. For instance, if you look at the data, younger people are about 10 percent less likely than other age categories to be religious because they have grown up in an environment that is less enamored with religion.

2. Question wording: Other gallup polls actually show that a majority of people believe evolution is true or probably true. Giving people the options presented in the original survey unnecessarily primes religious themes. Just asking people whether they believe in evolution or belief in creationism is a better method. I also think we need a lot more knowledge about what people think of when they are asked about evolution and creationism. For instance, whether they view them as being incompatible.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

3. Whose fault? No one in particular.



Max King of the Wild said:
If evolution was glazed over then you must not have went to college....

tbh I've had evolution shoved down my throat through people in pop culture and atheists on facebook and college professors waaaaaaay more than Christianity.  I'm no hard core Christian I mostly keep my beliefs to myself and I just get constantly bombarded with how stupid I am because of it for some reason.




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platformmaster918 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
If evolution was glazed over then you must not have went to college....

tbh I've had evolution shoved down my throat through people in pop culture and atheists on facebook and college professors waaaaaaay more than Christianity.  I'm no hard core Christian I mostly keep my beliefs to myself and I just get constantly bombarded with how stupid I am because of it for some reason.

I honestly think it's pretty easy to make it through college without taking a course that discusses evolution, especially given all the options students have. I took two chemistry courses and physics to fullfill my science requirement. The only reason I was exposed to evolution in the classroom was through a philosophy class on science and religion.



orniletter said:
JWeinCom said:
Max King of the Wild said:
If evolution was glazed over then you must not have went to college....


Or... he didn't take Bio in college?  Typically, colleges require one semester of Natural Science or Lab Science, and there are a lot of choices that wouldn't involve evolution. 

Isn´t biology part of your....(I don´t know what the american equivalent is)....high school (?) education ?

I know this was said a while ago and people haven't really touched it since, I feel the need to point out that (at least in the United States) there are some states that literally have the teachers tell you that you don't have to be in class when they talk about evolution.  That if you are a creationist, you can skip that class (like in my state of South Carolina, this was the case).  So it is ignorant of anyone here to think that just because you went through public school up until 12th grade that you would know what evolution is. There are, indeed, places in the "great USA" that actually allows you to remain ignorant of evolution.  

In fact, our entire education system in the USA allows higher levels of ignorance due to the fact that it's too easy to graduate high school.  I literally did only a few of my homework assignments throughout my entire middle and high school career.  I goofed off in class every single day and pissed off the teachers all the time because the classes were that easy and I had nothing to do but wait around.  It is also that same reason that there are MANY people who don't try at all.  Those who don't listen or anything and disrespect everyone (and it has also become part of our culture here).

Not too long ago, I was talking to someone who literally thinks that the academic curriculum is a fraud and that the government tells us X and Y, that you can't trust science and only trust what you see yourself... yet goes on to say that the government is involved with 9/11, the drug war, the crash of the economy, and everything and that we are slaves to the government.  



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MDMAlliance said:
orniletter said:
JWeinCom said:
Max King of the Wild said:
If evolution was glazed over then you must not have went to college....


Or... he didn't take Bio in college?  Typically, colleges require one semester of Natural Science or Lab Science, and there are a lot of choices that wouldn't involve evolution. 

Isn´t biology part of your....(I don´t know what the american equivalent is)....high school (?) education ?

I know this was said a while ago and people haven't really touched it since, I feel the need to point out that (at least in the United States) there are some states that literally have the teachers tell you that you don't have to be in class when they talk about evolution.  That if you are a creationist, you can skip that class (like in my state of South Carolina, this was the case).  So it is ignorant of anyone here to think that just because you went through public school up until 12th grade that you would know what evolution is. There are, indeed, places in the "great USA" that actually allows you to remain ignorant of evolution.  

In fact, our entire education system in the USA allows higher levels of ignorance due to the fact that it's too easy to graduate high school.  I literally did only a few of my homework assignments throughout my entire middle and high school career.  I goofed off in class every single day and pissed off the teachers all the time because the classes were that easy and I had nothing to do but wait around.  It is also that same reason that there are MANY people who don't try at all.  Those who don't listen or anything and disrespect everyone (and it has also become part of our culture here).

Not too long ago, I was talking to someone who literally thinks that the academic curriculum is a fraud and that the government tells us X and Y, that you can't trust science and only trust what you see yourself... yet goes on to say that the government is involved with 9/11, the drug war, the crash of the economy, and everything and that we are slaves to the government.  

That sounds terrible... and I thought the UK education system was bad.

It's bizzare because a lot of the best science research is done in the US, yet your description makes it sound like a miracle that anyone gets educated to degree level.



Scoobes said:

That sounds terrible... and I thought the UK education system was bad.

It's bizzare because a lot of the best science research is done in the US, yet your description makes it sound like a miracle that anyone gets educated to degree level.


The high school education varies from state to state.  Some are better than others, but in the end it is the college education in the USA that really gives results.  



About 50% of americans are below the median level of inteligence for all americans.



MDMAlliance said:

I know this was said a while ago and people haven't really touched it since, I feel the need to point out that (at least in the United States) there are some states that literally have the teachers tell you that you don't have to be in class when they talk about evolution.  That if you are a creationist, you can skip that class (like in my state of South Carolina, this was the case).  So it is ignorant of anyone here to think that just because you went through public school up until 12th grade that you would know what evolution is. There are, indeed, places in the "great USA" that actually allows you to remain ignorant of evolution.  

In fact, our entire education system in the USA allows higher levels of ignorance due to the fact that it's too easy to graduate high school.  I literally did only a few of my homework assignments throughout my entire middle and high school career.  I goofed off in class every single day and pissed off the teachers all the time because the classes were that easy and I had nothing to do but wait around.  It is also that same reason that there are MANY people who don't try at all.  Those who don't listen or anything and disrespect everyone (and it has also become part of our culture here).

Not too long ago, I was talking to someone who literally thinks that the academic curriculum is a fraud and that the government tells us X and Y, that you can't trust science and only trust what you see yourself... yet goes on to say that the government is involved with 9/11, the drug war, the crash of the economy, and everything and that we are slaves to the government.  

That´s too bad, I know that it has become a stereo type to imagine the american schoolsystem as poor, but I don´t trust this "kommon knowledge" usually.

I don´t wear lederhosen every day, hate beer and like a good joke (I´m German)...

...but I think that there are things everyone needs to learn in this modern age, English is one of them...and the fundamentals of evolution belong in the same category

...I can´t belive that there are people out there who literally put their head in the sand and ignore every hint/evidence in the favour of the evolution to...live in fantasy lalelu Jurassic Park-land !



I a have been studying this supposed 'evidence' for evolution and I all see are ad hoc explanation, conjectures, imaginary scenarios, huge explanatory gaps, failed predictions and contradictions.

That said, extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence. If evolutionists want to make a strong, convincing case for their 'goo to you by the way of the zoo' story then they should produce observational evidence a fish evolving to an amphibian or a fruitlfy evolving into something else or a reptile evolving wings. That's hard science. That would be scientific.




It's funny how of skeptics believe seeing in believing yet they tend to believe they evolved from goo by the way of the zoo when they never observed any creatures evolve on the macro level.

Indeed evolution is a fairy tale for grown ups.