I fixed the mistakes I had as its really the 21st week not the 26th week also I chose to not do region align launches mostly because its irrelevant to me but if their is enough demand I'll line them up by region.
How will 3DS do compared to the DS in its first year? | |||
3DS will win | 468 | 54.55% | |
DS will win | 199 | 23.19% | |
Netrual | 33 | 3.85% | |
It will be close | 78 | 9.09% | |
See poll Results | 76 | 8.86% | |
Total: | 854 |
I fixed the mistakes I had as its really the 21st week not the 26th week also I chose to not do region align launches mostly because its irrelevant to me but if their is enough demand I'll line them up by region.
I think 3DS will outsell DS in the first year, mainly becasue of the price cut and AAA software such as the 2 Mario games. After that though it'll be all downhill for the 3DS.
First Update!
3DS on the 22th week | DS on 22th week |
71,316 | 141,703 |
The DS outsold the 3DS by -70,387
3DS LIfetime in 22 weeks | DS Lifetime in 22 weeks |
3,372,035 | 4,815,363 |
The DS outsold the 3DS by -1,443,328
*DS the week ending of April 23rd 2005
During this week nintendogs was released in Japan so DS got a 67% boost
Hephaestos said: ^Didn't the DS get a crappy first year too? so 3DS ^^ |
Yeah, but something must be happening behind the curtain, because if it was the same scenario as the DS, nintendo would have not made a price-cut so soon. Maybe a lot of retailers have stopped placing orders for the system, who knows.
Heavenly_King said:
Yeah, but something must be happening behind the curtain, because if it was the same scenario as the DS, nintendo would have not made a price-cut so soon. Maybe a lot of retailers have stopped placing orders for the system, who knows. |
amazon had it unavailable for sale a little bit ago... people speculated it was due to shipping mishandling... maybe it was due to poor sales/stock ratio?
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padib said:
Behind the curtain, what's happening (and it's only visible to intelligent people), is that the 3DS was priced almost 100$ more than the DS. It cost definitely more than the DS to manufacture and ship (the DS sold at a profit at 150 US fyi). So maybe that's why the price-cut is coming so soon? Maybe it has to do with the price, maybe? you think? behind the scenes? |
So you are saying that because the 3DS costs more to manufacture and to ship, than the DS, they making a price-cut??? Does it makes sense to you?? Inteligent people says ilogical things now?? lol O_o. Jokes aside, what I was referring by behind the curtain is that Nintendo obviously knows something most of gaming sites dont know yet (and we neither); and they are trying to fix that by the changes they are making in the price. It is logical to expect less sales of the 3DS due to the higher price (and no games by the way), but something really wrong must be going if they need to make a price-cut so soon. Sales wise it is selling similar to the DS in the 1st year, and considering how the DS began to sell later, it would seem you dont need to worry about sales.
Even the PS3 didnt have a price cut 3 months later, and that was because the PS3 at launch required lots of money to ship and manufacture, so they couldt afford a price-cut until Sony made a system revision. By what you are saying about the costs of manufacture for 3DS, anyone would expect them to wait a bit longer before a price cut, but they didnt and that could mean they are desperate to prevent something from happening.
Hephaestos said:
amazon had it unavailable for sale a little bit ago... people speculated it was due to shipping mishandling... maybe it was due to poor sales/stock ratio? |
Yeah, I suppose that could be the case, but something really fishy must be going on if only 3 months later they are making a price-cut. And If they are just doing it because of the incomming arrival of the PSVITA, then PSVITA is a beast indeed :D. They even went so far to even lower the salary of most important people at nintendo that is just weird man. link: http://nintendoeverything.com/70659/
Heavenly_King said:
Yeah, I suppose that could be the case, but something really fishy must be going on if only 3 months later they are making a price-cut. And If they are just doing it because of the incomming arrival of the PSVITA, then PSVITA is a beast indeed :D. They even went so far to even lower the salary of most important people at nintendo that is just weird man. link: http://nintendoeverything.com/70659/ |
no the salaryis only indirectly linked to that.
A) they are japanese and accept punishment for failure, rather, they punish themselves for failure.
B) their failure is on revenues over the past 18 months... they have not managed to lift the curve and it becomes apparent that the curve will stay low untill next christmass -> big failure for a money printing house.
You have to realize that directors and high executives answer to the board and the board is elected by shareholders. Low revenues and dipping shares makes the shareholders and therefore the board (as they look bad) unhappy. The salary slash is a way for the executive to avoid having to resign under shareholder presure... and salaries at that level is a bit irrelelvent, your money is made on bonnuses and they made a ton in the past few years.... hopefully they'll make a ton in 12month's time too. (I may be off on the workings of nintendo, i'm speaking more in general terms here).
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Great thread, it'll be a strange situation to see how 3DS will perform in the next weeks...I'll be both excited by the bump but also scared of the possibility of a failure, which could not be recovered this time. Still, 3DS didn't perform THAT bad factoring all in, it's just Nintendo went mad with their expectations just looking at the reaction: 16m without even counting the launch is just too much, I don't know if it was reached ever by a system...
padib said:
See, you'll make anything fit your view. You think they lowered their salaries because of the vita. It's obviously a factor, but by far only one of many... Even if the Vita was against the DS it would've had a similar success. The 3DS is weaker than the DS as a sellable item, and that's the comparison you should be looking at. The Vita is secondary. The DS was a beast, and that's the beast you should be comparing to, not the Vita. Sorry for being blunt. I knew you were hinting at that from the moment you said it... |
Well, I said the Vita thing, because I just wanted to say something as a PS fan :D . I really think the PSVITA has the chance to take the crown this time, but I really dont expect them to take the direction they are taking right now because of the VITA.
My point of view is quite simple, and it is that I think there is something really weird going on, for them to adobt such drastic "economic politics" only 3 or so months after the release of the system. It is as if they knew they have and "EPIC failure" in the making, but nobody have notice it yet. I would compare more facts between the 2 nintendo handhelds, but I think there is nothing much to compare about the DS and the 3DS right now, aside the "not so great sales" in the first year, the name (lol), nintendo games and the possible escenario that the 3DS could eventually sell better.