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Let me start by saying that I am actually quite good with computers.  Ordinarily, I like them and they like me.  And the last and only time I have had a serious problem with my own hardware was a decade old video card dying in the Mac it came in. 

So.  I'm running a computer with a RAID 5 3-disk setup for storage (apart from the OS hard drive).  One hard drive drops out so the RAID 5 is functional but degraded. 

No problem, I figure.  It's happened before and just rebuilt itself.  But this time it didn't.  I run a HDD checker (SeaTools) and it declares the drive toast.  Fine.  The RAID is pretty old and I figure I'll just back up the array (my last backup is like half a year old) and restore the backup to an entirely new hard drive, twice as big as the array. 

Only the backup won't run.  Mind you, the degraded array is still fully functional and accessible.  WTF.  And it deleted the old backup, so now I don't have ANY backup. 

So I pop in a new HDD to fill out the array, maybe that'll fix it and let me run the backup.  No.  But wait!  SeaTools doesn't like a few sectors on the new HDD, so I'll use a different one. 

Okay, it's rebuilding again, I walk away for a while and OMFG

Apparently (there was a computer illiterate bystander) Windows crashed and rebooted.  SOMEHOW, the RAID 5 array is COMPLETELY FUCKING BLANK!!! 

All I can speculate is that one of the 2 remaining "original" array disks dropped out of the array, and when the system rebooted it automatically generated a fresh array. 

I desperately tried rebooting to see if it would somehow magically bring back the old array, no dice.  I find and run a RAID 5 data recovery program demo, but it won't tell me how much data is on the thing it wants $99 to fix.  I'm not spending that much to find out it "saved" my blank array. 

So I had RAID5 AND a backup and I STILL got destroyed.  Can anyone tell me if the RAID recovery guys have any chance to help me or if I am totally and irrecoverably fucked due to the blank array being created? 

P.S.  A careful reader will notice that I foolishly didn't take the opportunity to manually copy critical files when the RAID was degraded but working and wouldn't back up.  I have no explanation other than tunnel vision.  Don't let that happen to you! 



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Raid freaks me out! Sorry I can't help, you probably need to go to a more technical place than this.



Tease.

No, Raid is awesome.  I just don't need it anymore. 

UPDATE:  The backup magically reappeared.  My relief is incalculable. 

I am puzzled as to what exactly happened, and I don't know if the backup is 6 months old or new.  But I DO.  NOT.  CARE.  ONE FUCKING BIT. 

I have all, or the vast majority, of my stuff.  I am satisfied.  I am making a second backup because I feel very paranoid right now.  Then I am going to terminate the RAID 5 in the BIOS with extreme prejudice. 



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Final-Fan said:


UPDATE:  The backup magically reappeared.  My relief is incalculable. 

I am puzzled as to what exactly happened, and I don't know if the backup is 6 months old or new.  But I DO.  NOT.  CARE.  ONE FUCKING BIT. 

I have all, or the vast majority, of my stuff.  I am satisfied.  I am making a second backup because I feel very paranoid right now.  Then I am going to terminate the RAID 5 in the BIOS with extreme prejudice. 

Yikes, close call!



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Thats some scary shit.




              

I don't trust raids. I have my data mirrored on my pc, my laptop, and an external 1tb usb hdd. I also keep the original files of the home videos (of our baby) I shoot on 16gb ssd cards. The processed videos are also on my ps3 and on youtube. Lot of our pictures are also on facebook, printed out and shared with friends and family.

Beat that stupid hdds. Lost 2 hdds this year, but no data :)



Well, gald things turned out somewhat alright in the end.   When I read the OP all I could think was,"That fucking sucks!"

And you can count me among the people to scared to mess around with RAID and whatnot.



Final-Fan said:

No, Raid is awesome.  I just don't need it anymore. 

UPDATE:  The backup magically reappeared.  My relief is incalculable. 

I am puzzled as to what exactly happened, and I don't know if the backup is 6 months old or new.  But I DO.  NOT.  CARE.  ONE FUCKING BIT. 

I have all, or the vast majority, of my stuff.  I am satisfied.  I am making a second backup because I feel very paranoid right now.  Then I am going to terminate the RAID 5 in the BIOS with extreme prejudice. 

Dude, I so know how you felt. My 1 TB once fucked up with all my music, videos, pr0n (yeah, you read right :D) and other stuff. It showed me "Your harddrive is not formatted. Do you want to format it now?". I was angry as hell, but when I plugged it out, plugged it in back again, it still didn't work. At this time I was close to an emotional breakdown, and out of frustration I already ordered a new 1TB HDD, but after I run checkdisk over it (it took over 2 hours full of hopes and insecurity), it finally worked again without loss of data.



updated: 14.01.2012

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RAID is such a double-edged sword... I once saw a RAID 3 composed of Hitachi Deathstars, I was like "Are you suicidal or what?".

I'd love owning a RAID setup, anyway. Glad to see things turned out not that bad on you :D