blah blah blah , you sound like a broken record with the " Sony don't innovate"
i remember you saying you hate when people give me history lessons, now don't tell me you see dance central and those other kenict games as "Innovative" or see the Zune as something compeletly original.

its called competition and developement, you should understand how stuff works in real life, no one "innovates" .

Whatever it takes to make a better console at a lower price. Just don't make us wait 2 years after Xbox and Wii get their next gen releases

ps4 will be an upgrade similar to gc-wii, that is my prediction that way I honestly think sony can get back on top again, ps3 will eventually grab second, but it will not pass the wii, just too many things have happened, also why are 360 and ps3 fans fighting, wii rules all in sales lol, so funny, especially twesterms hypocrisy no where have i seen natal before... hmmm ps2 days eyetoy, gotcha, fact every company copies and improves that is how the induftry works, atari invented the first motion controller so all follwing companies are all guilty of copying!! Lol

When Sony, Nintendo, and MS launch there next consoles is going to be based on how Move and Kinect perform. I can't see either add  on succeeding personally. Both Sony and MS are banking on motion controlled add ons to extend the life cycles of their currents consoles. So in other words will be getting Nextbox and PS4 rumblings at next E3.

Lol ok right so Sonys the only company to do that right. Like Nintendo didn't look at Atari back in the 1970s and say hey we want in on what they've got there right and Microsoft didn't magically enter the consol market last gen either, no they've always been here right. Infact Sony never released a peripheral for the PS2 that looked like a camera and could track your movements. Nah Microsoft is the only company to have that sort of technology because they are so innovative.

I mean screw Sony. If Sony never entered the consol market it would have been a much beter place because all they did was copy every other company out there.

make the launch price more affordable and it won't matter, they didn't get behind this gen cuz they launched late , thinking so is just stupid

and the amount of trolling/flame baiting in this thread is crazy....funny if the same happened in a ninty forum everyone will get banned, double standards

 I know.. no matters what the case is , Sony well be just a copycat , even if they're the ones who invented and developed the DVD ( along side with Philips, Toshiba, and Time Warner for that matter) and the first ones to demonstrate an optical digital audio disc as a spin-off of laserdisc tech 3 years before any other company , and let alone the blue-ray , HDMI , CELL processor (?) , 3D ( bu bu but the Virtual Boy did it ... I'm talking about the real advanced technology ).

" This is from my other post ,,, OH there are hundreds of these people in here "

I'm not so sure that's a wise decision.

The early launch of the PS2 was a big factor in the final win. That's the reason Microsoft did it.  

I thought of it the same way.

“Probably the watch should be on these companies, in my opinion. Because PS3 was later than Xbox, and is more powerful, so it has a longer lifespan.”

Thats PR bullcrap right there. lol. (more powerful sounds exaggerated) both PS3 and the XBOX are going at it by showing what they got on a fair even level. With the PS3 slightly edging the XBOX because of the dedicated and hardworking 1st party developers that Sony funds.

Just because their idea is to keep the PS3 alive much longer means it can compete directly with the next coming hardwares, instead it will be the Wii of next gen..(no hard feelings)

The new hardware from Sony's competitors will crush the PS3 if Microsoft and Nintendo decides only to add 2gb of RAM alone to their machines and not counting if they add a QUAD core i7 type CPU or equivalent of it.  Oh! forgot to add what card might ATi would have in store for them...hmm.

they are likely going to be ready for it, any important game made for those console may have ps4 version ready at launch.

its clear nintendo won't make over powered machine, next console maybe between ps3 and 360