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Better than expected but still rough to be 36% down YoY and 50% down compared to the PS4. Income is up a lot though so that price increase is already doing good for them and the really high install base means they'll be in a good spot for quite a while even if sales completely tank year next year following another price increase.

CosmicSex said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Actually i never saw that, i stand corrected HOWEVER.

Thousands of digital only games are still counted,heavily skewing those numbers.

Oh okay got you.  I thought you were trying to pull one on me for a second lol 😆.  And about your Digital Only games... I really don't see how this makes a difference in this situation.  There are many caveats of course but at the end of the day... what matters is revenue.  From Sony's perspective, they are weightng the loss of 2% revenue against whatever they would gain from not having to produce discs, gains from lower retailer cuts and whatever gains they get from not shipping the next system with a disc drive... which will allow them to then go back and then charge people who do have disc libraries.   About the ownership thing... no... people have been purchasing licenses to use software forever.  Like a very, very long time.  I don't hear people complaining about not being able to own Microsoft Office.  They just purchases a license... and thats what they own.  I think its the utility of the product itself that creates value... not direct ownership.  I think we as consumers need to be more focused on insuring our rights as license holders.   

It's not quite that simple since the vast majority of people who buy physical games will also buy digital games and a lot will have PS+ subs. They're also relatively likely to be hardcore fans who would buy a PS6 in its first year no matter how expensive it is so pissing those people off is risky.