Microsoft’s 3 billion bet on Copilot is assessed to be a disaster

[Mnementh]

CaptainExplosion said:

Mnementh said:

Dude, chill on the violence.

I am german and I tell you a story about german history. Not the one you think, later than that, in the 1970s. German students saw their protests of capitalism and imperialism (worthwile goals I support) failed and the disappointed ones started to evaluate other options. Some entered regular political parties, moving through the institutions and some of our politicians today are from these. Others took a more radical turn. Especially a group that called themself Rote Armee Fraktion (RAF, english Red Army Faction) decided the time for nonviolent resistance is over. They started a series of domestic terror attacks in germany, that involved kidnapping, hostage situation, the direct and targeted murder of 33 people and bombings that left more than 200 injured. They achieved nothing of their goals of dismantling capitalism and imperialism. Instead they tarnished the ideologies they strived for for decades to come. People that were sympathetic to the goals stopped supporting them in fear to be seen as associated with or supportive of the RAF. So in reality, not only did they not achieve their goals, they actually hindered them. All because they chose violence.

Then what the fuck are we supposed to do to stop data centres from destroying the world? No matter what we do or say they pop up everywhere, stealing drinking water, adding noise pollution, releasing forever chemicals, and driving up electricity costs. You sound like all we can do is just sit back and wait to die. -_-

Despite what people tell about past generations, they did solve quite a few problems. SvennoJ names a few of them, but they didn't solve themself, people did something. Not blowing up stuff, but getting into negotiations and drafting international contracts. None of that was easy. But it was the way to go.

For instance, the about the ozone layer the Montreal Protocol was made to ban FCKW: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol

It wasn't easy, but that is the point. All these problems: ozone layer, acid rain, the threat of nuclear destruction — all of that were complicated and quite difficult problems to solve.

There is also another way, or more one complementing the international treaties: scientific and technical progress. Acid rain was stopped by more sophisticated filters for both factories and cars. The governments then mandated their use, but they had to be created first. Same with climate change: people had first to develop wind power and solar power into a usable state, now government regulation like the german renewable energy sources act and the european green deal are possible, because first the technical progress made renewable energies available and practical. And the success is visible: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=~OWID_EUR

So negotiate or invent. And yes, both ways take a long time and are difficult. That is life.

Last edited by Mnementh - on 29 May 2026