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JackHandy said:
SvennoJ said:

What it means is that we have let his sacrifice be for nothing as we're well underway to new fascist oppression. It doesn't mean that he wanted Nazism to steamroll the world in the 1940s, it means that its happening again. It means we haven't learned from history and are repeating the same mistakes that led to Nazi Germany.

Yes he can make that assessment. 

No, he can't because it's wholly-flawed logic.

If he hadn't fought, if no one had fought, there wouldn't be a country to lament about. There wouldn't be a world he doesn't care for. There would be nothing. No interview for him, no opinion for you and no reply from me. If the three of us had been born into that world, and that is a big if considering... we'd all be living in some sort of Tolkien nightmare where Frodo doesn't save the day.

The man was dead wrong.

Period.  

Eh, there would be a country and all, these wouldn't stop to exist. History goes on and Hitler would've died at some point and things changed again.

And he isn't saying the world is worse than it would be, he said the price paid, the sacrifice is not worth it. And admittely it is a pretty steep price: a lot of valuable human lifes lost. As I said, I think the sacrifice *was* worth it, but given the price I am not saying he is totally off with his remark, or he is dead wrong.

Especially given that we a far way off of living in an utopia. We are living in a highly commercialized, strongly controlled by corporate interests world. There are homeless people, starving people, people affected by crimes and so on still in big amounts. So yeah, who are we to tell him this was worth the death of his friends.



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