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Soundwave on 23 September 2025
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Pemalite said:
Soundwave said:

Mario Galaxy 1/2 are not GameCube games, the GameCube got Mario Sunshine and that was it. 

The GameCube for its time had nothing to match Mario 64, Zelda: OoT, or GoldenEye 007 in impact, the chipset was capable but Nintendo didn't bring it as much on the software side for whatever reason that product cycle. 

Welp. Got it wrong. Thanks for that.

I would argue Sunshine is inferior to Mario 64 in that instance.

Obviously games themselves are personal preference, because I would rather Metroid Prime over Goldeneye or Luigi's Mansion over Mario 64.

Hardware wise, the Gamecube was better than the N64 in every single aspect, including the controller.

Well yes ... but it's supposed to be. It's effectively the N64-2, why wouldn't it be better than the first N64. The first N64 was building a lot of the track for all 3D games period, before that there wasn't really a blue print for how to do all of that and a lot of games were really just 2D games in a quasi-3D space. 

The N64 was the first console to actually build a controller for 3D space, Sony was still using basically the same layout as the Super NES with extra shoulder buttons, so was the Saturn (basically just a Sega Genesis pad), N64 had an analog stick for 3D movement and C-buttons for camera control. Once Sony and Sega saw that then they started to pivot towards actual real 3D controllers.  

GameCube was better than the PS2 hardware wise, significantly so, but people didn't care. They just saw it looked like a child's toy and was purple like Barney the dinosaur and there was no Mario 64 or GoldenEye 007 or Zelda: OoT. Nobody back then gave a shit about Pikmin or Animal Crossing, it wasn't what the people of that era wanted. Even things like Luigi's Mansion was met with a lot of "what is this Luigi shit? Where's the real Mario 64-2? How can they launch a new console without a real Mario game?". These things always get romanticized after the fact, I remember that time period like it was yesterday and it wasn't pretty. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 23 September 2025