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RedKingXIII said:
Soundwave said:

Essentially yes I think those are stupid too. But at least game discs cost only 5 cents to print, even at a mass product price, you probably cannot get any kind of cartridge storage option for Nintendo that would be under $4-$5.

You're not even "preserving" anything, like the full game is not on those discs, it pretty much never is lol. The whole situation is stupid.

The Playstation 6 Portable or whatever is not even going to have cartridges period like Steam Deck they're going to go all digital.

Most of the discs on PS4/PS5 actually have the full 1.0 version of games on them, and you don't need to download anything to play.

Game key cards don't have any data on them and you have to download the games from Nintendo servers.

For the whole preservation angle that's not the same thing.

Soundwave said:

If you're using game formats (disc or cartridge) to effectively not even play games from but just to dump data onto internal storage, then really the purpose of the media is rendered moot to begin with. That's essentially, basically (gasp!) a Key Card. 

Also what is magically different about data on a disc versus data downloaded from an internet connection? There is no difference, if you want to rip the core game's data for "preservation" it doesn't matter if it's from a cartridge or disc or downloaded from the internet. That's not dependant on a disk or cartridge though. There's not special or magic data in a cartridge or Blu-Ray disc version of a game versus a digital download of a game, I'm pretty sure virtually every major PC game is ripped and dumped onto the internet. 

The point of having the whole game on cartridge is to not depend on Nintendo servers to play anything in the future, because they won't be available forever. 

For "preservationists" they can dump ROMs and keep them circulating forever, you think PC games just vanish because they're not on a physical format? Virtually every big PC game is ripped onto the internet. Data is data, it's not more special if its on a cartridge or disc or the same exact data is downloaded over an internet connection. 

And we are never going to have optical discs on a portable again (so long PSP), so that setup is tenable because the discs cost nothing. It's not a "conspiraceeee!" of Nintendo trying to screw anyone over, the fact is cartridges just cost a lot more than discs. Nothing can be done to change that fact. Nintendo should know that better than anyone, the only reason Sony even has a marketshare in the business is because Nintendo got fucked on cartridges vs discs about 30 years ago and their traditional console business was effectively stolen by Playstation.