[Variety] Disney's Boy Trouble: Corp seeking ways to win back young men

[EricHiggin]

Torillian said:

EricHiggin said:

We, don't like how they, have been dealing with that problem. That's part of the reason for this Disney situation and the thread.

We, the majority of us anyway, aren't disagreeing with them as to the goal. We are disagreeing as to the measures being used and applied for the fix.

We, also don't want what's coming, if that's not understood and straightened out, because it's just going to be another false "racist" slur situation, where the word and cause behind it get's ignored because it's constantly being applied incorrectly and in a manner that could very well set it back.

We, are not the enemy. We just want to be heard, and most importantly, actually understood. And if not, then left alone, in peace.

You agree with the idea of encouraging marginalized communities to go into careers that they previously were unable or at least heavily societally discouraged? Because honestly based on all your "the giver-esque, we should encourage people do what they do best versus what they would want to do" shit and your confidence that you can basically figure out who would be best for a job based on gender and sexuality it really sounded like you don't agree with that concept. 

If that's the case and all you disagree with is how Disney's making movies then I don't give a shit and you can just move on to continuing to talk about how Rey is a Mary Sue. 

I guess out of curiosity, what were your thoughts on fantastic four? because it seems like it should be right in the wheelhouse of those with these concerns with the happy family of a newborn pronatalism stuff going on. 

Who said I, or anyone, are supposed to pre select people for job positions? I just said I prefer to live in a place where I have options. If there are people who like what they do but aren't good at it, then I want someone who is good if not great at it, no matter if they like the job itself or not. If I can have both obviously that would be ideal, but I also know that's not typically how the world works and is more of a rarity.

We don't want borderline good enough most of the time, and we certainly don't want everyone becoming an extreme sports athlete or Hollywood star, or YouTube personality or influencer, etc, just because that's what they like. Many more Doctors, engineers, tradesmen, etc, wouldn't just be more useful, but are flat out needed, whether enough people like those positions or not.

Now if you and others like you, don't care at all, and are willing to accept whatever the outcome, even if that's inefficiency and mediocrity for the most part, that's fine with me and people like me, just don't try to force that on us. Whether or not that's the outcome, who knows? Maybe it will lead to a better system overall, but then prove it first somewhere where only fewer pay for a failure if it occurs, not everyone everywhere. If you are right and it works much better, then it will be pretty easy to get everyone else for the most part to follow suit.

Until then, people like me think the system we have is pretty good for the most part, but like most things, has room for well thought out improvement, incrementally. Just let everyone do whatever role they like, everywhere, starting now, isn't well thought out.

I haven't seen the new F4 film yet.