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[EricHiggin]

the-pi-guy said:

EricHiggin said:

You didn't watch the video's did you? How does men and woman being more the same on average, and differing in the extreme's, mean that men and woman generally prefer different things? It means on average they're similar, but when it comes to certain things, men and woman are very different.

I didn't watch the video before replying. I have now, and it was exactly what I was expecting it to say.  

And now I'm wondering if you watched the videos you shared.  

For one, I am using the word things differently than Jordan Peterson is. I'm using the word things as "subjects" - whether it's people, art, computers, and he's using it more as a contrast against people.  

What I am saying is that someone could become a doctor because they like helping people, or because they like working with people, or because they like the pay or because they like the benefits. Some of these preferences are associated with men and some are associated with women. 

Even if you could associate that women like helping people more than men like helping people, and men prefer solving problems, both of those apply to the job of doctor. 

EricHiggin said:

Why are people so worried about the natural Earth as it was? Why do they have such a problem with it being changed? Why do some people, see people, as a cancer that's destroying the planet because we're changing it? Why do they want the Earth left alone to be as natural as it once was, for us to learn to live with it as it's supposed to be, yet those same type of people, seem to think seeing people like men and woman, as naturally a certain way, is unacceptable? 

People are not concerned about keeping the Earth "natural". People are concerned about dying and staying healthy - people are concerned about climate change for example, because it is going to kill people. 

People live where they do, because those areas have expected climates. This affects what gets grown there, what kinds of storms happen, and a lot of other things. We have infrastructure and supply lines in place because we expect certain places to be able to support 

If that climate changes, best case scenario we have to spend a lot of money to move a lot of operations and change building codes.

Worse case scenario, a lot of dead people. 

Most people aren't concerned about keeping the Earth natural just because. They are doing it to prevent harm.

Just like it causes harm when people insist that men and women naturally like different things. It causes harm to the people that don't fit those views. It causes harm when society views some preferences as more valuable.  

You could argue in the end that both end up helping people but that's a poor argument. For example, the men who created the nuclear bomb, were and weren't looking to help people from you're perspective. Yet you could argue, in the end, since what came from that in the future, nuclear energy, was mostly a good thing so they were mostly helping people. This excludes a potential nuclear annihilation if it were to ever happen.

The fact of the matter are the scientists were really most interested in the "things" they were working on, and it was the politicians/military that were worried about the people. Many of those scientists didn't want the bombs used against people, yet went ahead and made them anyway. Why?

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So is the Earth better in a natural state or not? On one hand you're saying it is, but on the other you're saying it's not.

What I'm saying is the Earth's natural state changes, little bit by little bit each day, but also changes considerably over time. Nobody seems to care much about the minor day to day changes, though we do care a bit, but they are extremely worried about the large overall change of climate. Same reason why humans see some work as mens work and some as womans work at certain points in time. That's not to say there aren't some men who prefer doing what woman have in the past, and vice versa. That's not to say views on male and female work positions won't change over the long term either. Nobody puts major focus on the small things, but that's not to say they aren't there, and should get some degree of focus. Democracy may be a better system for the minority, but it's far from a perfect system. Earth may be a better environment for humanity, but it's not the perfect environment.

Some people believe we're destroying the Earth and should put it back the way it was, leave it in it's natural state, and stop tinkering with it. How would that work out for the human race as it exists? Would everyone agree? Would everyone go along with it? Would forcing people to go along with it and just live with the outcome be the right thing to do?