Do you consider yourself more left or right wing?

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sc94597 said:

curl-6 said:

With pay and gender for example, a woman or a man get paid the same amount if they work they same job for the same amount of hours, yet men typically choose higher paying jobs that are for instance dangerous or unglamorous. That's an internal force, driven by choice.

There are per-occupation wage gaps that can't be explained by this. Also I am not convinced this is an internal force that isn't impacted by socialization according to gender. There is also evidence that as fields shift towards being female-dominated from being male-dominated that compensation decreases, and the converse. 

But to stay on the original topic, what is the internal force for racial-outcome differences? Why is the U.S South more racially equal and integrated than the U.S North and Midwest despite it being more historically ideologically racist? How do we explain this without considering the historical impact of active social and political interventions? It can't be something like culture because the variance in African-American culture isn't along regional lines. 

Socialization and culture are a big factor, yes.

I don't live in the US nor do I have any experience with the African American community specifically so I cannot make any comment there, but one thing I do see in my own life as someone who came from a poor rural town is that often in demographics that fare worse in terms of socio-economic status is there is a culture of learned helplessness, where people accept their status as unfixable rather than striving to escape it, and are socialized into behaviours that perpetuate their own poverty just cos people naturally imitate the behaviour of others around them.

For instance, the kids of teenage mothers tend to go on to have kids in their own teens in turn, or people piss away their money on things like alcohol or gambling cos it's what their friends do, or people drop out of school cos the culture around them doesn't value education, all of which are choices which contribute to poor outcomes.