Do you consider yourself more left or right wing?

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sc94597 said:

curl-6 said:

The institutions already offer equality though, it's been illegal to say exclude black people from a University or pay women less than men for decades.

Outcomes are created not just by external forces but by internal ones as well.

The bolded is false. It is made with the assumption that just because people are nominally equal before the law, the social institutions and forces treat them equally in fact. But that obviously isn't the case. 

Otherwise, how do you explain the gaps in outcomes? What are the "internal forces?" If you believe there is no difference in the group-level abilities between races, and social institutions de-facto treat people equally on the basis of race, then at the racial level outcomes should be the same or rapidly narrowing. There is no reason they shouldn't according to your premises, because there is no explanation for the differences. But we obviously don't see that. We need an explanation for the differences in outcome, and the evidence points toward there still being a difference in the treatment of people, as well as the resources and opportunities available to people on the basis of race. 

With pay and gender for example, a woman or a man get paid the same amount if they work they same job for the same amount of hours, yet men typically choose higher paying jobs that are for instance dangerous or unglamorous. That's an internal force, driven by choice.