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sundin13 on 17 August 2025
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RolStoppable said:
sundin13 said:

Hello, I'm someone on the left who has used less than kind words to talk about those who voted for Trump. My argument is not that the left is perfect. Quite the opposite actually. I think a lot of people on the left genuinely hate the left and I have a ton of criticisms of the ideology, the policy and the people. 

My argument is that the right has become so fundamentally vile that I believe no rationally acting individual can intelligently vote for them (with the exception of maybe billionaires acting for their own financial interests). I also feel that if someone decides to vote for Trump because some random asshole on the internet called them an idiot (it's me, I'm the asshole), they are proving the accusation true. 

Does that mean it is good policy to call people idiots? I mean, no, but that doesn't make it not true. 

Indeed, I was also about to say something along those lines. The thread has been drifting off in a direction where votes for fascism are being justified because the left is saying mean things. Voting out of spite is not rational behavior, it's the very essence of acting on emotions without giving it any thought.

Additionally, why are people acting as if it would only be the left that is looking down on people who don't agree with them when the USA has entire TV channels that are dedicated to be echo chambers for people who want to look down on the left.

Why is it that when someone on the left does or says something ridiculous (eg. "This pants ad is Nazi propaganda"), it seems like the general reaction is "The left is awful and I'm not going to vote for them", but when someone on the right does or says something ridiculous (eg. "We need to turn America into a white ethnostate"), the general reaction is "Oh you can just ignore that guy"?