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Chrkeller said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I've noticed this a lot too.

Among the louder elements of the left at least, there's always the sense that leftist ideology is perfect and beyond reproach and that anyone who doesn't agree with it is just a filthy ignorant subhuman fascist who can't be reasoned with.

This attitude alienates broad swathes of folks from groups like working class white people and straight men and drives them into the arms of the right, who then win them over by promising them "we don't hate you like the left does."

This is why the alt right has flourished in recent years, and if it's ever going to be defeated, this needs to change.

Very well articulated Curl.  This is exactly what is happening all across the country.  

I know absolutely brilliant people who voted republican last election.  People who run circles around many folks here.  But many liberals will insist those people have to be "dumb" because they can't fathom a world where someone might not agree with their platform.  Thr left have created this attitude "if you don't agree, you are beneath me."  Well the message has been received and middle America has responded with "go **** yourself" attitude of their own.  

Historically the left was strongest, when it was an alliance of working class people with intellectuals. That was the strong core of left politics. But in recent years the intellectuals looks down on the working class and the working class despises intellectual elites and the rift has worsened over the years. As a result we are seeing the left flatlining basically worldwide. I want quickly add, that the democrats itself are not a left party, they are center at best, but a strong left can pull at them to influence politics.

Also, intellectuals are not arriving at better political conclusions. How can they, if they ignore big parts of the citizenship and their experiences. But also, despite thinking that education and experience in critical thinking helps with deciding political questions, research shows it actually does not. You can ask exactly the same question, once you frame it in the context of partisan politics, even educated people with experience in reasoning drop all their skill to align with their chosen tribe. Which is why the conclusion that the 'dumb people just need to come to their senses' is so deeply frustrating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB_OApdxcno

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