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RolStoppable said:
Mnementh said:

The obvious answer: why not change the two-party-system? Nearly every democracy in developed countries has more than two relevant parties, the US is the obvious deviation. So the obvious thing for any rational person is to stop relying on just two parties.

And no, a winner-takes-all is not the reason, you don't need proportional representation to fix that. This two party system is not created by actual rules, it is created by the stupid legend that choosing third-parties would lead to demise, just like you do. If you are aware that more countries outside the US exist we could look there: France, Japan, the UK all have winner-takes-all systems, and they all have more than two parties. So stop spreading inaccurate bullshit, the US could've more than two parties as well.

And as I shown with actual data and not just claiming everyone disagreeing is stupid like you do, the other countries do better in regards of wealth distribution.

Winner-takes-all is the reason. In a proportional voting system, voters know that there's a high chance that their vote won't be lost (it is when countries require a threshold which usually ranges between 3-5% of all votes). In winner-takes-all, your vote will be ignored if you didn't vote for the winner. Third party candidates in the USA are usually even more clueless and useless than the two major parties. Your suggestion is akin to recommending Germans to vote the AfD because neither the CDU or SPD have fixed the big problems during the last three decades. As messed up as it is, the Democrats happen to be the most left option in US elections despite being clearly located on the right side of the political spectrum. All that is why both abstaining and voting for a third party lead to the same result of raising the odds of putting the Republicans in power.

You've waived your right to call my post bullshit when you selectively quoted it. That's not how you debate if you have actual points.

France, Japan, the UK don't exist, because you say it, it is so, winner-takes-all creates a two-party-system. OK, fine you win. I guess reality loses against your flawless arguments.



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