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burninmylight on 11 May 2025
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BasilZero said:

burninmylight said:

"I haven't cared enough to do enough homework to decide if I want to spend money and time on these games"

Already answered this question. I always do research and look up something before buying. I said that I haven't cared enough to do the research for the Atelier games. More work than I've been in the mood for.

A google search led me to RPGSite and the Wiki which pretty much helped me compile that list - took me like less than 5 minutes

Good for you

burninmylight said:

Madden '25 makes Madden '24 irrelevant. Splatoon 3 makes Splatoon 2 mostly irrelevant. Most players move on to the latest version of fighting games like Smash and Tekken; of course a small section of the community stick with the previous release, but most people move on to the newest game. There are genres besides JRPGs with continued plots, you know. I don't know why you're trying to use a movie series as an example when we're talking about video games as if those two mediums are a 1:1 comparison.

You cant compare sports and fighting games to story focused RPGs in that argument.

My movie example fits the bill because we are talking about story centric media.

When I first said that newer games in a series make older games irrelevant, I never specified story-centric media. You applied that goalpost. You've been trying to strawman me this whole time. It's gotten old already.

burninmylight said:

And you're the only one who keeps bringing up the actual game instead of how they are named. I've stuck with my point. Regardless, I don't need to have completed a playthrough of the game to know how the game plays. You yourself mentioned video reviews. Are you saying they're worthless now?

Yes, the actual game is what matters, not the naming scheme. If you had played the games, you would have understood the reasoning for the names of the games.

Video reviews help you decide whether a game is worth buying due to its performance, amount of content, etc, does not include spoilers or plot points that explain major aspects of the story.

It matters to people who haven't yet played the games and aren't already fans of the series. You seem to have a really hard time grasping this.

Thank you for the explanation of a video review. Now I will explain to you what connotation is: an idea or feeling that a word invokes in addition to its literal or primary meaning. Maybe one day, you will understand this concept.

burninmylight said:

Then I guess people who aren't hardcore FF fans are all molemen that can't make it past this gate that you're keeping, lol. I know what Intergrade is. It's called speaking from the standpoint of a layman though. It went right over your head.

Except no one asks if they should play Remake then Remake Intergrade. No one asks if they should play Persona 5 and then Persona 5 Royal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/JRPG/comments/15ciruf/ff7_remake_vs_intergrade/

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyVII/comments/1e117rq/what_is_the_difference_between_remake_and_remake/

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/15h7ihz/is_it_necessary_to_play_intergrade/

https://www.quora.com/Should-you-play-Persona-5-before-Persona-5-Royal

A google search led me to these questions that you said no one asks. Took me less than two minutes. You should really bother to do some research dude. That's just plain lazy of you.

burninmylight said:

But plenty of people look at a game or a game series, get intimidated or turned off by convoluted titles that seem to be an inside thing that only the series' dedicated fans get, and then decide to come back to it later or look elsewhere. And flag-waving fans like you that think they have to die on that series' hill and run checks on everyone to see if they belong don't help.

I honestly dont care if these people play the games or not. Do research like a normal person should, if you cant do a simple google search or ask a question but complain instead, then thats a personal problem.

Says the guy who couldn't be bothered to see if people ask about Intergrade and P5 vs. P5R

burninmylight said:

"Could I take the extra time to go to Wikipedia or Reddit to figure it out? Sure, but I don't care enough to do that."

Yeah, I said just that earlier. This issue you have with me could be resolved if you actually had some reading comprehension.


So you admit you are unwilling to put in any effort and instead complain, wasting everyone's time.

For someone who doesn't have time to waste, you sure are putting a lot of it and effort into this. You don't seem to have anything better to do.

burninmylight said:

Nope, didn't quote you to argue. I was actually agreeing with you when I first quoted with you, and I figured that it would be a good starting point on what I had to say.

Your post complained about the name structure, nowhere in my post you quoted did I say anything about the naming structure. Maybe take your advice and learn reading comprehension.

Which is why I said that it's an addendum to your point. Do you know what an addendum is? Since you're too lazy to research, I'll Google it for you:

1. : a thing added : addition. 2. : a supplement to a book. often used in plural but singular in construction.

Then again, you're the guy who arbitrarily decided that I can only be talking about story-centric games when I said that newer games make older ones irrelevant to fit your narrative in this argument that you apparently don't have time to apply reading comprehension skills for.

burninmylight said:

Outside of saying Atelier and Legends of Heroes games come from Bamco, what other mistakes? Before you mention Intergrade, let me remind you again that I wasn't seriously asking the question for you or anyone to answer. I was making the point that it's the question that comes to mind for more casual folks.

No casual person would ever ask "Should I play remake or remake intergrade"

I've seen "Should I play Remake or Rebirth" which I can sympathize with.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFantasyVII/comments/1iw5gzu/should_i_start_with_remake_i_have_onhand_or/

LOL. BasilZero, a real man of the people.

burninmylight said:

Neither did I; I just used Atelier as an example. I came to complain about FFVII Remake and Rebirth. Didn't realize that you would get this bent out of shape about it.

You came to complain about games you never played to begin with. Congrats I guess.....

You got butthurt because you thought I was trying to argue with you, and now you've backed yourself into a corner. Great job.

burninmylight said:

No, I said YOU are taking this too seriously. Like, "Dude you must be fun at parties" serious. You're like Dave Bautista's character* in Guardian of the Galaxy who is so unaware of his ability to take a joke that he thinks he can jump up and catch it as it goes over his head. It was a lighthearted jab at Squeenix's naming conventions, but you turned it into this. Maybe VGC should add a sarcasm font so I can use that next time.

Yep, I'm too lazy to go look up the character's name. Go ahead and grill me for that, and tell me how I must not have ever seen a Marvel movie, and that you've watched hour-long video essays on how Groot's philosophy on existentialism could be the savior of the modern Western world. And while you're giving yourself ulcers over it, I'll be living my best life.

You came into a thread complaining about two games you have not played.

You brought up two game series you never played and complained about them because they had so many games.

????

I dont watch hour long video essays or complain about stuff I havent played or watched.

I actually play games and watch movies before I critique them.

The only thing I complained about is the naming convention of the FFVII trilogy. I just said that I haven't bothered to get into Trails or Atelier yet because I haven't felt like figuring out where to start. I can see how that can sound like a complaint to someone incredibly tightly wound up like one of those coil toys from the 90s.

I haven't offered a single critique about any actual games themselves, just the titles of two games. READING. COMPREHENSION. SKILLS.