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BasilZero on 11 May 2025
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Otter said:

I disagree a lot on the bolded. As a big fan of FFVII, a game which I think had an incredible story and medium defining impact, I want to see a film at least attempt to reflect this legacy and strive for a similarly high bar. When ambition is sunken to the levels of "fan service" you are certainly not going to see anything close to that quality emerge and often coherent story telling falls to wayside. Advent children isn't just flawed, its a bad film IMO. I understand that some people are just happy to spend more time with the world and characters they love, or to see cool action sequences but I had higher expectations and don't think its good filmaking or storytelling.

Widely though you misunderstood my point. What I'm saying is that the VII series is treated by its creators with the same level of convolution as your explanation, and it lacks some important story telling foundations that would make it even better in my opinion. For example the whole Z/Aerith arc in Rebirth was a complete stain on the actual narrative momentum of the game and it seems mostly orientated around fan service without particular care to attaching meaning to Zack because it assumes the fandom to already to have a deep investment in this character which you only get to know through a spinoff game that most people have not played. Creative decisions like this feel like they're made for a 10% of the audience but they harm overall quality. I'm just highly critical of what I consider good and bad creative decisions and how they impact overall audience impressions of a stand alone body of work.

I would temper expectations and not expect much from Square Enix, the same company who made the most boring ass garbage Spirits Within and thought it was a great idea.

The story ended perfectly with the OG FF7 just like how every other FF game concluded perfectly wrapping up their specific story.

Square Enix decided to expand the story but time and time again, they prove that they are not good at writing expanded stories and having to use fan service (at the level you expect it to be fanfic like)

FF7 -> Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus

FF4 -> FF4 After Years

FF10 -> FF10-2

FF13 -> FF13-2 and FF13 LR

FF5 -> Legend of the Crystals FF

FF15 -> Kingsglaive

FF12 -> Revenant Wings

I havent played Stranger of Paradise but its connected to FF1

Regardless, I love Crisis Core's story/lore and love FF7 Remake's as well.

Havent played Rebirth so cant say much about it aside from the cutscenes I looked up and what I read about the lore, got me excited for when I play Rebirth and whatever comes next.

Last edited by BasilZero - on 11 May 2025