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the-pi-guy 5 days ago
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IkePoR said:

Why ought we believe the majority of mainstream media when it's proven disingenuous and often untruthful?

You don't. 

Good skepticism is asking questions, trying to get more information. 

Bad skepticism is believing everything that Y says, because you believe that Y tells the truth while X lies. Everyone makes mistakes/"tells lies" at some point, intentionally or unintentionally. 

I don't have to believe NASA when they say the Earth is round, what's great about science is that you can do some work and determine a lot of these things yourself. 

IkePoR said:

A late stage cancer patient, or a patient with a failing heart, develops Covid-19 and dies.  Is it not possible that any death slotted under "Covid-19" could have been caused by an underlying health condition?  

Cause of death is difficult. 

As Ryuu was saying someone with cancer can be immunocompromised, and die from a regular illness that wouldn't hurt most people. Sometimes multiple factors contribute to someone's death, how do you pick one? 

"Underlying health condition" is doing a lot of carrying there. Lots of things are underlying conditions. 
Would you be happy if your death was caused by a bad flu, made worse by some heart defect that you had no idea about?

IkePoR said:

1. So assuming it is possible a failed heart patient could be deemed a Covid caused death, is it possible there are incentives toward setting such a precedent? During a time when there was mass hysteria and a public crisis, is it at all possible there would be some profiteering?  Do you believe it impossible that a highly profitable incentive to propagate the masses wouldn't be executed?  

2. Fair enough.  I ask questions to be more informed, not bicker, so, alright then.

1. You think the Republican party and Trump put out a bad bill? 

You must read CNN.

CNN - Covid-19 testing is a financial windfall for hospitals and other providers

Hospitals do not make more money off of Covid deaths. They do make money off of treating Covid patients. They also don't need to take advantage of mass hysteria, Trump's bill already allowed them to do it.  

And if you were really concerned that there was mislabeling, you can look at other trends. How do US covid cases compare to other countries? How many deaths were there throughout the pandemic, compared to how many deaths there normally are/how many deaths are expected? 

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