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crissindahouse said:

JohnVG said:

I'm in support of taking down ALL PRIVATE BIG PHARMA industry, and search about the huge amounts of corruption inside them, returning all its money to the public institutions from they are sucking BILLIONS of money to make CRAP and trying to sell it for its private interests. And Prosecute the criminals directing those private companies, executing them if the law permits it.

My change of opinion about them is caused by the HUGE despise to the public they showed constinuosly during COVID crisis. They seem to HATE the common people: COVID vaccines were insecure, and in some cases, extremely dangerous and most probably killed LOTS of people and saved 0: search about what happened in Europe with Astrazeneca vaccine, killing young people (20-30 year olds) with agressive and bloody brain strokes always around 20-30 days after taking that vaccine, and suffering painfully during those weeks. And this is NOT a fake story.

That vaccine alone created an hysteria and was officially abandoned by some countries after some weeks/months. US never used it, even when they buyed lots of it, precisely because of that precedent.

"Congrats on learning that scientists experiment on things in labs."
Congrats on you for being so distasteful: If those "things in labs" create a pandemic, they have to be publicly prosecuted as criminals. You are welcome.


Vaccines and medicines research and supplies have to be publicly controlled and monitored. NO private interests there anymore. Health is a HUMAN RIGHT.

Did you just try to tell us that the vaccines saved exactly 0 people and think you should be believed telling us that the vaccines killed so many people? I mean, sure, there will be some who died from it but it still easily saved many more lives as it took.

But why should someone even try to argue with someone who comes up with such a ridiculous claim of "it saved 0 lives around the world". You might have read some studies about how it's not proven because, well, how shall you prove that some specific person would have died otherwise, right? That you can't prove that person XY would have died otherwise doesn't mean that it didn't save lives. You obviously can't prove that someone would definitely die.

And as someone from Germany who very well followed every spike in deaths and hospitalizations in clinics and when they went out of free beds I could very easily see how the vaccines helped to reduce these numbers. I didn't even have to read about anything, I just had to check the numbers and talk to people working in those hospitals.  

2 questions:

1. A late stage cancer patient, or a patient with a failing heart, develops Covid-19 and dies.  Is it not possible that any death slotted under "Covid-19" could have been caused by an underlying health condition?  

2. Why ought we believe the majority of mainstream media when it's proven disingenuous and often untruthful?