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JohnVG 6 days ago
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Ryuu96 said:
JohnVG said:

You truly seem to be confident on the Big US Pharma. Hurray for you.

Never seen the arguments Big Pharma told publicly in the European Parliament debate, about COVID vaccines?
They basically used an emergency created by a virus (NOW, after 5 years, NOW, mostly accepted by experts to be modified/created in a lab, just for "fun"... I mean, just for "make science", like Glados from Portal series would), to vax crap with no test at all, using a new (so, dangerous) technology like ARN vaccines are... to everyone.

And persecuting in general media people who did not want to get that, during 2 years or more. Or even worse, prosecuting them in some countries. And all that crazyness, for an illness that... from the very beginning, always seemed to be just a new kind of Flu that practically everyone not very old, with no serious health problems, could survive pretty well with no consequences and no help of vaccines.

But your love for Big Pharma is truly an inspirational story. Like Romeo and Juliet.

(And I'm vaccinated, by the way)

Well for starters I'm not American so I don't care about "Big US Pharma"

Congrats on learning that scientists experiment on things in labs. I don't believe the origin of the virus has a definitive explanation, only a bunch of different theories, infected animals sold at a market or a laboratory leak are two often spoken about. As far as I can see from a brief look, the most accepted theory is not that it was created/modified in a lab, even the lab leak theory is considered extremely unlikely due to all the safety precautions. Also it is far more likely a Zoonotic jump than "created" by humans. Truth is we likely won't ever know for certain.

The COVID vaccines were tested in clinical trials so you're wrong there as well. mRNA vaccine has had research into it since the 1970s. It just never received much funding until recently because we already had other forms of vaccination. I'm glad it's getting some more attention into it now, mRNA vaccines are impressive stuff and could lead to brilliant advancements in medicine, unless the antivax morons stop it. 

I'm vaccinated too, Pfizer, multiple shots. I'm not in love with Big Pharma, I just understand basic medicine and science, learnt about vaccines in High School and College and trust the actual doctors and scientific community more than morons on YouTube and Twitter. COVID was a serious illness which killed over 7m people and caused multiple issues long-term to even those who have survived. I got the vaccine, partly for my own safety but also because I'm not a selfish human being who only cares about himself and understands the concept of herd immunity.

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But I like how you've focused only on COVID when my post was about ending vaccines for Polio (if you support that, then you're insane) and ending Childhood Vaccinations, things which have been tried and tested for dozens of years and shown as effective at what they do, things that are preventing the return of diseases far more serious than COVID...But you spend your entire post whining about COVID? Interesting that.

Actually why am I bothering to talk about COVID at all.

Do you support ending Childhood Vaccinations and Polio Vaccine?

I'm in support of taking down ALL PRIVATE BIG PHARMA industry, and search about the huge amounts of corruption inside them, returning all its money to the public institutions from they are sucking BILLIONS of money to make CRAP and trying to sell it for its private interests. And Prosecute the criminals directing those private companies, executing them if the law permits it.

My change of opinion about them is caused by the HUGE despise to the public they showed constinuosly during COVID crisis. They seem to HATE the common people: COVID vaccines were insecure, and in some cases, extremely dangerous and most probably killed LOTS of people and saved 0: search about what happened in Europe with Astrazeneca vaccine, killing young people (20-30 year olds) with agressive and bloody brain strokes always around 20-30 days after taking that vaccine, and suffering painfully during those weeks. And this is NOT a fake story.


That vaccine alone created an hysteria and was officially abandoned by some countries after some weeks/months. US never used it, even when they buyed lots of it, precisely because of that precedent.

"Congrats on learning that scientists experiment on things in labs."
Congrats on you for being so distasteful: If those "things in labs" create a pandemic, they have to be publicly prosecuted as criminals. You are welcome.


Vaccines and medicines research and supplies have to be publicly controlled and monitored. NO private interests there anymore. Health is a HUMAN RIGHT.