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[EricHiggin]

SvennoJ said:

EricHiggin said:

I'd assume you two don't stand behind Trudeau then, because too much more of him and there won't be anyone willing to fight to save this Country. 

The German elite in WWII may have wished they had American weaponry, but they also wished they had Canadian soldiers, unsurprisingly.

America won't ever collapse entirely, but on the path it's been on, it will come apart. What would come of that, would likely be even more worrisome.

See that's the thing. Trump is welcome, because everyone is, or at least was until much more recently, which is exactly what led to sparking this topic. Not like we're the big problem or only problem, as Trump see's America's own southern border as a much bigger concern, but Canada was the point of discussion.

No Trudeau is a dishonest clown. But Doug Ford is more hated here. So both Liberals and Conservatives are out and the NDP sucks as well.

We don't really have any choice here, but having an openly gay mayor here, David Bailey, is some progress. (Unfortunately a bit too much progress on the rapid building side, but that's dictated by Doug Ford's policies for unreasonable growth, doubling our town size by 2051)

With the first past the post system our voices aren't heard here. But there's still petitions and engaging with the county, even though our votes are lost in the system. Green Party is all that's left, and of course who knows what they would actually do if in power. Power corrupts, always does.

Doug is actually quite liked when it comes to the rural and small town folk. He wasn't dealt a great hand to begin with and has been dealing with a ton of crap ever since he took power. This whole 407 thing is just ridiculous. The calls for him to just go to straight up buying the 407 are so blind. He's laying the groundwork for negotiations. If Ontario has plans to bypass the 407 in one or multiple ways, they'll get a better deal when they approach them to buy it. If Doug goes straight for a purchase, the 407 owners will ask for an insane amount of money, plus every first born child.

The building is needed no doubt, but you're right about the rapid part being a problem. They should've been planning for this long ago, yet decided to try and boost the pop quickly, and then try and figure out things like housing. Meanwhile Parliament has been getting a wildly expensive massive reno and maintenance, and they still can't make up their minds about the PM's residence. What a shocker...

Some Canadians are scared of Pierre much like how some Americans were so scared of Trump in 2016/2017, yet we all know much of that scare was blown out of proportion and was for nothing. That's not saying there wasn't anything there, but the worst certainly wasn't true. It will be similar with Pierre, just a Canadian version.

If you remember the last election, the biggest reason why the Conservatives didn't win is because their agenda was too similar to what the Liberals were already doing, so why bother switching. That's why everyone just voted exactly the same as the election before, making the last election a total waste. Less important, but it matters, is O'Toole was not a good candidate, was boring and nobody really liked him. I don't know what the heck the Conservatives were thinking.

This is a big reason why Pierre is presenting himself as he is, speaking the way he is, etc. If his campaign is too similar to O'Tooles then Pierre will have to campaign like there's no tomorrow to just win a minority Gov. The massive right swing that some think will come with Pierre isn't the case. It will swing right but much more so to simply correct for how far left it's gone under JT.

With the Conservatives in power, it will be much easier to work with the US and it will benefit Canada considerably compared to what we've had lately. Remember, Trump likes those who get along with him and makes better deals with them. 

It could always be worse. We could end up with the Peoples Party and Bernier as PM. I wouldn't want to find out how that would play out.

The system does need to change. Many systems within it as well. Though as you said, power corrupts, so the odds of us seeing much if any of that is unlikely.