killer7 said:
BraLoD said:
Nintendo does not compete with either Sony or Microsoft. You can in fact say the Wii beat the PS3 and 360 and the Switch beat the PS4 and XBO based on system sales, you can compare them like that, yes. Now, the important part, they still never competed, the Wii or Switch success did not affect the other system sales, both still sold 170M+ units combined, those two on the other hand compete directly, and one being up means the other being down, like the Football example you gave, for one to win the other has to lose, that's not the case at all with Nintendo. Nintendo platforms do not receive the modern new game releases, the vast majority of people will not consider either the Switch or another platform, they either want to have both or they only get Nintendo and indie/older games, basically excluding themselves from most new game releases. They can still only care for Nintendo games, usually happens to younger people or people getting systems as gifts, and they proceed to get another system (be either PC, Playstation or Xbox) later on if they plan to get access to most modern games. Sony and Microsoft were directly competing for where do people want to play the new releases from the industry aside from a PC (PC does not canibalize console sales, at least not yet), they are into the Greece vs Portugal situation, actually even past that as Microsoft accepted they can not compete directly with Sony and are moving to a subscription based model and even porting their own exclusive games to Playstation. Maybe none will be truly into competition next gen. |
BraLoD said:
Nintendo does not compete with either Sony or Microsoft. You can in fact say the Wii beat the PS3 and 360 and the Switch beat the PS4 and XBO based on system sales, you can compare them like that, yes. Now, the important part, they still never competed, the Wii or Switch success did not affect the other system sales, both still sold 170M+ units combined, those two on the other hand compete directly, and one being up means the other being down, like the Football example you gave, for one to win the other has to lose, that's not the case at all with Nintendo. Nintendo platforms do not receive the modern new game releases, the vast majority of people will not consider either the Switch or another platform, they either want to have both or they only get Nintendo and indie/older games, basically excluding themselves from most new game releases. They can still only care for Nintendo games, usually happens to younger people or people getting systems as gifts, and they proceed to get another system (be either PC, Playstation or Xbox) later on if they plan to get access to most modern games. Sony and Microsoft were directly competing for where do people want to play the new releases from the industry aside from a PC (PC does not canibalize console sales, at least not yet), they are into the Greece vs Portugal situation, actually even past that as Microsoft accepted they can not compete directly with Sony and are moving to a subscription based model and even porting their own exclusive games to Playstation. Maybe none will be truly into competition next gen. |
Nobody said that the Game Boy was no competition to the Game Gear. Nobody said the Mega Drive and the SNES where not in direct competition. When the DS trounced the PSP or the 3DS outsold the Vita, nobody said "different audience". Its not about the games. Its about the audience. The audience are gamers who care for physical games. This is why i can understand why we do not take into account PC and Mobile. I wrote a thesis over games. And the correcting staff had no problem when i mentioned that the Wii and the Xbox 360/ PS3 where in direct competition. To me this seems to be downplaying the winner because the looser(s) cannot accept defeat. |
"There were a total of 77.7 million games sold on the PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 for the quarter. This is up 10.1 million from 67.6 million during the same period a year earlier. Digital sales accounted for 70 percent of software sales"
I'm sure Xbox digital ratio is even bigger given the number of Series S sold. Your point about console audience leaning heavily towards physical is misplaced, console owners are moving own to digital for quite a while. PCs are as much competition for PS5 and Series X/S as Switch, because they share the same games even more now Sony is releasing their first party on PC
Also, doesn't matter how things were prior to Nintendo Wii. The industry changed and so did customers habits. Switch being a portable means they have a unique feature other consoles don't have thus not in competition with any other major console, at least for people who specifically needs a handheld device
Of course the best way to understand how this works is: Different groups of people are wanting and expecting specific features and games. In Japan please who wants to play third party Japanese games (mostly not AAA) Nintendo and Sony compete directly. For Japanese people who needs handhelds specifically, Switch and PS5 don't compete
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