PS5 Ships 65.5 Million Units as of September 2024

[killer7]

BraLoD said:

killer7 said:

All 3 are gaming systems and can be compared and they will be compared. All 3 play physical games or have at least 1 SKU that does. This whole nonsense started when Sony was not Nr. 1 anymore (Wii). Look for example at sports. 2004 Greece won 1:0 against Portugal and they became european champions. They where clearly the underdogs and most people cheered for Portugal and Italy. Did anybody came and said: You cannot compare Greece to te Rest because they play for a different audience or it was just luck?! Greece won, full Stop. Portugal had Luis Figo, Christiano Ronaldo, Pepe... Greece had a bunch of no name players. When a  relativley unknown polish soccer player from germany (Miroslav Klose 16) surpassed Ronaldo (15) in World Championship goals, nobody claimed that you cannot compare both just because the former is more famous. All 3 systems compete directly with each other. Who sells more wins, who sells less looses. It was always like that and it will always be. Only because people cannot accept their favourite system loosing, does not make the winning one a "non competitior". Thats what people need to learn.

Nintendo does not compete with either Sony or Microsoft.

You can in fact say the Wii beat the PS3 and 360 and the Switch beat the PS4 and XBO based on system sales, you can compare them like that, yes.

Now, the important part, they still never competed, the Wii or Switch success did not affect the other system sales, both still sold 170M+ units combined, those two on the other hand compete directly, and one being up means the other being down, like the Football example you gave, for one to win the other has to lose, that's not the case at all with Nintendo.

Nintendo platforms do not receive the modern new game releases, the vast majority of people will not consider either the Switch or another platform, they either want to have both or they only get Nintendo and indie/older games, basically excluding themselves from most new game releases. They can still only care for Nintendo games, usually happens to younger people or people getting systems as gifts, and they proceed to get another system (be either PC, Playstation or Xbox) later on if they plan to get access to most modern games.

Sony and Microsoft were directly competing for where do people want to play the new releases from the industry aside from a PC (PC does not canibalize console sales, at least not yet), they are into the Greece vs Portugal situation, actually even past that as Microsoft accepted they can not compete directly with Sony and are moving to a subscription based model and even porting their own exclusive games to Playstation. Maybe none will be truly into competition next gen.

BraLoD said:

killer7 said:

All 3 are gaming systems and can be compared and they will be compared. All 3 play physical games or have at least 1 SKU that does. This whole nonsense started when Sony was not Nr. 1 anymore (Wii). Look for example at sports. 2004 Greece won 1:0 against Portugal and they became european champions. They where clearly the underdogs and most people cheered for Portugal and Italy. Did anybody came and said: You cannot compare Greece to te Rest because they play for a different audience or it was just luck?! Greece won, full Stop. Portugal had Luis Figo, Christiano Ronaldo, Pepe... Greece had a bunch of no name players. When a  relativley unknown polish soccer player from germany (Miroslav Klose 16) surpassed Ronaldo (15) in World Championship goals, nobody claimed that you cannot compare both just because the former is more famous. All 3 systems compete directly with each other. Who sells more wins, who sells less looses. It was always like that and it will always be. Only because people cannot accept their favourite system loosing, does not make the winning one a "non competitior". Thats what people need to learn.

Nintendo does not compete with either Sony or Microsoft.

You can in fact say the Wii beat the PS3 and 360 and the Switch beat the PS4 and XBO based on system sales, you can compare them like that, yes.

Now, the important part, they still never competed, the Wii or Switch success did not affect the other system sales, both still sold 170M+ units combined, those two on the other hand compete directly, and one being up means the other being down, like the Football example you gave, for one to win the other has to lose, that's not the case at all with Nintendo.

Nintendo platforms do not receive the modern new game releases, the vast majority of people will not consider either the Switch or another platform, they either want to have both or they only get Nintendo and indie/older games, basically excluding themselves from most new game releases. They can still only care for Nintendo games, usually happens to younger people or people getting systems as gifts, and they proceed to get another system (be either PC, Playstation or Xbox) later on if they plan to get access to most modern games.

Sony and Microsoft were directly competing for where do people want to play the new releases from the industry aside from a PC (PC does not canibalize console sales, at least not yet), they are into the Greece vs Portugal situation, actually even past that as Microsoft accepted they can not compete directly with Sony and are moving to a subscription based model and even porting their own exclusive games to Playstation. Maybe none will be truly into competition next gen.

Nobody said that the Game Boy was no competition to the Game Gear. Nobody said the Mega Drive and the SNES where not in direct competition. When the DS trounced the PSP or the 3DS outsold the Vita, nobody said "different audience". Its not about the games. Its about the audience. The audience are gamers who care for physical games. This is why i can understand why we do not take into account PC and Mobile. I wrote a thesis over games. And the correcting staff had no problem when i mentioned that the Wii and the Xbox 360/ PS3 where in direct competition. To me this seems to be downplaying the winner because the looser(s) cannot accept defeat.