Farsala said:
Blatantly wrong. That isn't this thread. The Liquid Laser and Ryng predicted 170m for Switch, and I figured if numbers reached that high then the Switch would at least be competing with the top consoles in each region. I didn't say the Switch needed to win every region, but it at least needed compensation from other regions if it fell short. I like doing comparisons, so I compared with the top consoles and every year I update to see the progress just for the fun of it. |
I'll have to try to find that post but I'll take your word for it and my apologies. I must have missed that context.
XtremeBG said:
I described it but I haven't done it. Nowhere have I said the Switch (or any other console) that it wouldn't be successful if it weren't for some of the reason I am giving. I've always said that they only helped. Each of them add couple of millions to the total number. That's it. Not targeting me, at the same time quoting me and debating my posts with answer every time after this with over 10 replies for the whole thing. This is targeting. I never said Switch had 240 million base for itself. I've just said, that because of this, handheld market has reached higher points therefore handheld market now reaching 170M is not mind blowing (reply to @javi741 ). As he and I discussed, from there on out, the smartphones have taken some portion of those 240M. It's still impressive for a console to reach 150-160M or even 170M if it reach them in the end, however, for the handheld console market, it's not so mind blowing since it's been even higher before. That was the only point I wanted to made and made with my original reply to @javi741 . And when you saw the world Switch in there you jumped right away, like always. You like to put words in the people's mouth, I noticed that couple of times now, doing it with me, and with others here too. That's not speaking well for your personality @Phenomajp13. Switch obviously does not have those 240M for itself, otherwise it would've been at least 220-230M by now, not 140M. And yes, if Nintendo don't drop it to 149$/199$/249$ or less and does in fact release the Switch 2 next year, I am making the point that the Switch won't make it to 170M. And 160M are very doubting of this moment as well. I can only see 170M happening in 2 cases, either decent price cut for the Switch 1 and delaying Switch 2 to at least 2026, or launching it next year but having decent difference in the price of both, let's say something like 200$ or more. Also I've written posts, reasoning, explaining Switch's sales trajectory, advantages and disadvantages (and all the other consoles of course) and giving predictions as well, since a long time, not from recently. Most people know or may remember, that I started to write here actively since 2019. So it's not when I realized Switch is getting close to 150M or 160M, it was all the way back when Switch was in it's 40ties million. Someone haven't read the history and didn't informed himself on something he is saying constantly for the last 1 year... |
Us debating is not targeting, I also never put words in your mouth or anyone else's mouth. You starting to post here in 2019 has what relevance? You still said the things you said including some downplay and I critized it. Your posts from 2019 and beyond are all here for us to see, it's a public forum. If you feel targeted because someone debates your ideas, then you could stop posting? I don't want that, I enjoy your post.
PS: No one remembers or cares when you started posting. You starting to post when the Switch was around 40 million means nothing, you still had the opinion of it not making it (which is ok, that is the point of this thread). You are NOW claiming that this is something that doesn't surprise you after it gets this close. That's all I'm saying, I'm not saying you deny it has done well. I'm saying that all of a sudden you claim this isn't surprising because the handheld market is huge, yet you never brought these massive advantages up before when you said it wouldn't make it.
Also maybe this will help strengthen your point. The Switch as a platform has around 240 million potential handheld console consumers and 270 million potential home console consumers leading to a massive amount of potential consumers that helped it reach a level that the other consoles just can't match. Doesn't that sound better than what your initial posts sounded like such as Switch is a handheld and Nintendo waited a long time to release its successor. You are allowed to say these things, just like I'm allowed to debate them.
Edit: I'll give you the last word here, I'll send you a message after your next reply. Also stop acting like you don't enjoy debates with me, you wouldn't entertain it if you didn't. You removing me as a friend was very mean of you by the way.
Last edited by Phenomajp13 - on 27 September 2024
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