Pemalite said:
EricHiggin said:
Yes, correct.
That post was more about graphics, which seems to be the bigger focus for most who are curious. Switch 2 should probably end up deemed satisfactory by most when it comes to it's GPU, but won't be as performant when it comes to its CPU, and will likely leave a little to be desired.
It would be kinda similar to XB1 or PS4 in that way. The GPU's were reasonably adequate (PS4 more so than XB1), but their CPU's didn't wow gamers. Now that was less of a choice and pretty much all AMD could offer SNY and MS at the time with their Jaguar cores, which is why we don't have that problem this gen due to AMD's huge leap with their (Ry)Zen cores.
This is why I placed Switch 2 between PS4 and PS4 Pro in my other post here earlier (below). That's my guess based on everything, not just GPU.
EricHiggin said:
Where I would guess Switch 2 ends up slotting into the mix overall:
Switch
XB1
PS4
Switch 2
PS4 Pro
XB1X & XBSS
PS5 & XBSX
PS5 Pro
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I think it will be around as capable as the Xbox One X and Playstation 4 pro.. Mostly due to the terrible Jaguar CPU Cores and the old and outdated Polaris based Graphics Core Next GPU... But unlike those 8th gen consoles, it won't be wasting bandwidth and compute chasing 4k.
Remember that the Radeon RX 580 is clocked at 1.257Ghz - 1.340Ghz... And the Playstation 4 Pro is the same GPU Core layout but clocked at 0.911Ghz, the One X is 1.172Ghz with a few extra CU's.
And yet RDNA2 is significantly faster... As the Radeon RX 6600XT can offer a performance increase of 60-100% (Almost double) of the Radeon RX 580 despite having identical bandwidth.
https://hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-6600-vs-radeon-rx-580
Which bodes well for something like the Geforce RTX 3050 which should offer relatively similar capabilities in terms of overall performance... But with added features like improved DCC, Ray Tracing, Tensor Cores, DLSS, Frame Gen and more.
And then you have the Series S. - Which is essentially a Radeon 6500XT but with the bandwidth of the vanilla 6600... So it should fall roughly in between those parts, which again... The RTX 3050 would compare extremely well against... Especially once you start using Ray Tracing.
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/nvidia-rtx-3050-vs-amd-rx-6600-faceoff
Obviously nothing is confirmed yet on any level as we don't know what the hardware in the next-gen Switch is. - But I can't stress how good nVidia is right now verses AMD.
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At $499 I could potentially see Switch 2 slotting in between PS4 Pro and XBSS maybe, but I'm guessing that even though Nin might want to hit that mark, I'm figuring they're going to play it at least a little safe because that's been their approach since Wii in terms of hardware performance.
I think Nin knowing where PS5 and XBSX were in terms of performance and price in 2020, and where they are now, still at $499, to me Nin would likely want to come in below that, and companies in general, especially console companies, like to launch with $99 pricing instead of $49. This makes me assume Nin would probably go with a $399 price point, and since they are very unlikely to subsidize, that means the hardware will be worth around $399 itself. Even if Nin went with a $449 price, that could very well end up being $50 in profit per unit.
A big factor will be how hard Nin decides to push the docked mode. Switch was pretty tame in terms of docked performance, so will Nin do the same this time, bump it up a fair bit more, or push it as hard as they reasonably can?
As you say though, we don't know anything for certain and we're just guessing with what we think we know, which doesn't hold much water at the moment. The closer consoles get to launch however, the more whittled down and more accurate the leaks tend to become, so we may not be too far off either.
