IcaroRibeiro said:
JuliusHackebeil said:
I am afraid this is an assertion without proof, or even argument. Yes, many words have grammatical genders. It is the same in my mother language (german) too. But the question is not if they have one. It is if that grammatical gender is directed and dictated by a social construct – our modern understanding of gender – or by sex. And gender as we understand it is so young, that it could not possibly have played a role in forming the decisions of what person gets what pronoun. And I get that social roles can be old. But a man not conforming to social roles, or in fact exclusively practicing female social roles, would still be a man for all the understanding we had on this topic until five minutes ago. Also, please consider this: gender, as modernity dictates, is a spectrum. So how come we only now get a spectrum of gendered pronouns and up until recently only had he/she – a binary? Because it is in direct relation to and consequence of another binary – sex. It is also an extremely modern mindset, that gender is everything and sex says rather little about an individual. “The pronouns are just to identify what is the gender of the character. It’s just that.” “The pronouns are just a way to make the player understand what are the gender of the robots and non-human characters” A lot of people like the idea and theory of gender. But please note that it is just that, a theory. Set up in a way so it can never be proven or disproven. Unintelligible, non-empirical. My opinion, as I actually argued (above) is, that pronouns are not a way to identify what gender a character has, but what sex. Now a robot does not have a sex. But it can be programmed to come across as if it had. And if alien reproduction turns out not to work like it does with the human binary sex, then perhaps different pronouns, like “it” could be in order. But I cannot imagine the concord devs thought so deeply about it. But since pronoun choices also apply (presumably in concord too) to humans (and not just to robots and aliens) your point is moot again. Also, why choose pronouns at all, if they are dictated by how the fictional characters would feel inside or what social roles they take on? This at least should not be your choice but the characters. But since it is your choice, it is about you, not about humans, robots, aliens or anything else. This is just for the player. And this is also a common thread in the gender discourse – self-obsession – a downright recipe for unhappiness. And please don’t call people deranged or having brain rot, just because they do not believe in this unproven gender theory and think that pronouns work differently than you do. |
Your entire premise is based on the assumption you can select characters pronouns/gender. It's a false premise. You're not brainroted for not believing in gender theory, you're at worst uninformed. You're brainroted if you are one of those chronically online people who choose to fight with an inexistent enemy Guys for some reason decided this game is woke and are creating narratives to get angry for no reason. This is typical deranged political minions behavior. If you're like that, you're deranged |
This was hardly my "entire premise", rather one of many points I argued. But I am glad to hear that it is not a choice. Makes it somewhat more consistent at least. Honestly, thanks for clearing that up.
And I can see how the connection between Concord and its characters and pronoun inclusion on one side and authoritarian cuts to free speech on the other side seems flimsy. But rest assured, it is there. The more alternative or neo-pronouns are found in Concord, the more it becomes normal to use them. The more it becomes normal to use them, the more it becomes abnormal to speak out against them. The more it becomes abnormal/socially unaccepable to speak out against them, the more legislation we will see to protect them. We are already at a point where this becomes a vicous cycle.
You said there are people suffering from brainrot because they fight against inexistent enemies. I would argue instead of "fight" to use "speaking out against" and instead of "enemy" to use "uninformed people", "trend chasers" and "virtue signalers". Then it fits for me. The truly aweful psychos you would have to fight against. But I don't do that.
Make no mistake though, all of them do in fact exist. Hence all the horrible social practices, people who cannot function, ideas from universities, legislation, policing of thought crimes and unending list of victims to this neo-religion.
I would strongly recommend to watch this 8 min video from the ever on point Andrew Doyle for his format "free speech nation". Really sums up many of my points quite well while pointing to some specific cases. If you don't want to watch, let me at least leave you with a quote from the video: "the basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words."
-Philip K. Dick
Andrew Doyle Free Speech Nation
Ps: art (like video games) is is a rather special case as a political platform. And propaganda works really well and is historically commonly used within.
