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Pemalite said:
zeldaring said:

I'm sorry  but ill judge console with real world results wiiu had 30 plus ports almost every single one was one was worse or at best then 7th gen consoles and even the ones with that were touted to use the GPU, you would never spot the differnces  in screen with out someone telling you what they real a meaningful differnce with the switch it proved itself the superior hardware from day one.s.

The Playstation 3 was more powerful than the Xbox 360, also had worst ports.
SNES vs Genesis.
Saturn vs PS1.
Gamecube vs Xbox.

Every platform exhibits bad ports irrespective of hardware capabilities.

PC was notorious in the 7th gen for receiving garbage console ports that not only performed badly... But they also looked bad despite the PC being multiples more powerful than the original console hardware.

Bad ports are not and never have been a determiner for total hardware capabilities, ports by their very nature are designed to be a jack-of-all trades, master of none on the visual fidelity front, they aren't built from the ground up with the hardware in mind.

And obviously the WiiU having more advanced graphics feature set and additional hardware accellerated units, isn't going to showcase 7th gen ports in the best light.

We have already touched upon this point multiple times over the last several days... And it honestly seems you just aren't getting it, I am starting to think you aren't taking these discussions seriously.

zeldaring said:

beofre you tell well look botw, many on beyond3d  including mods believe 360/ps3 had the more techically   impressive games so it's subjective. Also asked the guy at beyond3d who is extremely technical proficient, he was the guy that looked at the gpu die and figures out the specs of botw he said I would imagine it would get pretty close. I will add that it would probably run better since every open world game on wiiu ran worse then 360.

No one cares about the opinions of a random member on another forum in internet space.
It's not empirical evidence, it's not scientific, it's not even relevant or even a credible source.

Again... We have already discussed Breath of the Wild running on Xbox 360, another example of you either not being able to remember conversations or continue to repeat the same arguments that no one is refuting.

Yes Breath of the Wild can run on Xbox 360, I have already elaborated on this previously.

As an aside... And we have discussed this already... Someone else's qualifications and experiences does not override another's, you don't know my background, educational history or experience. Remember that.

zeldaring said:

As for red dead and botw i was playing both of them on 14 inch laptop and they honestly looked  amazing, so i decided to see how they would look on 42 inch and they both looked super dated when i connected my laptop to hdmi, and i play 4 feet away. yea i know i probably should have known that but i just got my latop and never played game in 14 inch screen and boy does it hude all the flaws.

Red Dead is an amazing looking 7th gen game. But it's rendering features are old, simple and not visually advanced.

Leynos said:

I have a 43-inch 4K TV. I use a Mclassic. Some games clean up fairly well. Not a miracle device but things look cleaner. Bayonetta 3 looks nicer. Tho I also adjusted things on the panel itself.

For my NES, SNES, N64, PS1, PS2... I use a cheap line doubler (Based on the retrotink) which does a brilliant job cleaning up the image and outputs to HDMI, especially for the Nintendo 64 which does not scale well to larger displays due to it's naturally blurry output... But that's great for composite.

I use component to a HDMI converter for component signals from consoles like the OG Xbox as it's raw output is good enough.

The mClassic does make a significant difference... Depending on game.
For something like Mario Kart 8 with a 1080P output it's pretty useless.
But something like Tears of the Kingdom? It adds a significant amount of additional clarity due to it's sub-1080P resolution and that's where it's strength lays.
I am hoping they update the mClassic with a full 4k/60 upscale rather than the limited 4k/30 limitation at some point, it's a great little device if your primary use of the Switch is gaming in docked mode.

I'm sorry. i do care about there opinions cause they know there stuff, and they have developers post there, are you the only person on the internet that knows what they are talking about? I'll take there opinion over yours  anyday. They don't act like their opinion is fact like yours. I also can judge with my own eyes. I don't need you forcing your opinion on me. Again even one of the mods here told you graphics are calcualtions something your eye will  never see. 

As for wiiu it's not based on anything that's ground breaking, developers were already familiar with the same gpu since it's in the same family as the 360,  you ask for evidence and for 40 plus ports not even one really showed a meaningful advantage gpu wise, I find that impossible but hey developers can't seem to know how to use it I'll just believe you cause  you think botw which  is not even as technically demanding as gtav proves something. The systems you mentioned  in ports you can see massive advantages in color or resolution. Plus they were very exotic hardware for there time. Ps3 is also not really more powerful, it's on par.

Last edited by zeldaring - on 02 August 2024