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[sundin13]

Tober said:

Ryuu96 said:

Apology accepted, then I am sorry about criticising your spelling.

But you seem wrong about your comment on Hillary's polls according to Sundin. I can't say, I wasn't tracking every single one, in fact I was barely paying attention to that election. But I can't recall many polls saying "Brexit has no chance" and I'm British, Lol.

Here's a compilation of BREXIT's polls - EU Referendum Poll of Polls - Financial Times

So it doesn't seem polls were as off as you're claiming on an overall average, especially with the end result being as close as it was, many of those polls are close, with a lot of undecideds to sway things in either direction.

Hillary won the popular vote and IIRC lost by about 80,000 votes. She really didn't lose by much. No, they didn't "rig" the debates, Bernie lost plain and simple and Bernie fans (which I'm one) need to get over it, Bernie did. They do an open convention, Harris will win it, it's a waste of time.

It is well known, that during the primary debates between Hillary and Berny, the DNC coordinated the debate questions with the Hillary camp to give her an advantage. It's the reason that the then DNC chair Dona Brazile had to step down after this was revealed later on.

Some references:

https://observer.com/2017/03/donna-brazile-admits-primaries-rigged-for-hillary-clinton/

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/donna-brazile-2016-primary/index.html

About Clinton's chances of winning in 2016, Reuters put her at 90%

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/clinton-has-90-percent-chance-of-winning-reutersipsos-states-of-the-nation-idUSKBN1322J0/

New York Times had her at 85%

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html

I'm not looking to relitigate the 2016 election (jesus people, it's been almost a decade. Move on), but on the subject of polls real quick, poll aggregator 538 gave Clinton a 3.6 point lead (which is close to the typical poll margin of error) and RCP (another poll aggregator) gave her a 3.2 point lead. The final result gave Clinton a 2.1 point lead. 

The polls really weren't as far off as a lot of people tend to believe.