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zeldaring on 28 December 2023
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LurkerJ said:
zeldaring said:

You make good points it's just every one that's pro palestine that has knowledge about wars and stuff is usually pro Russia and with the way US is acting and basically fully supporting the blatant genocide its hard not think maybe be these people are right and the US elites are  evil and making the problems on the world 

I think most of us here admit the west have irreversibly damaged the Middle East and immortalised vicious monarchs who have done to Yemen what Israel is doing to Palestine now.

Unfortunately, the bias reporting by the mainstream media have left many people from both sides of the aisle with too much willingness to give Putin the benefit of the doubt like what's happening with you, which is an absolute shame because you seem to want to learn more and happy to acknowledge good points when they're made by others and not some sort of unreasonable bigot. Sadly, the biased pro ultra far right Netanyahu policies (and the biased reporting on those policies) continues and the only people served by this bias is evil like Putin & Netanyahu, not the west, so why are the lessons are not learnt is beyond me (have I mentioned the west is that big of a joke).

I think you need to start watching more people-powered medias that have been suggested by SvennoJ, me and others to get a more balanced views on the matter. The Young Turks, Secular talk, Breaking Points, Briahna Joy Gray (Bad Faith & Rising), Novara Media are all left leaning commentators that have dedicated equal time to criticising all savages and imperialists. 

You don't have to live in a "either.. or" state of mind when you can simply criticise and disown both.

I do watch some of those and they really make the war in Gaza seem much worse and make it seem like Netanyahu is way more evil and especially with the civilians death rates, especially children. Plus  isreal  made its intent way more clear then Russia of committing a genocide or ethnically placing the Palestinians, and apparently the has supplied israel with 500 dumb bombs that weigh 2000 pounds while saying please take Carre of civilians which is a face for the media.