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Soundwave on 09 February 2023
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

Yes ... and?

I'm in this to play games (go figure). Sales trends are interesting to watch, but they don't super-cede the actual games themselves for me. I'm pretty sure that is true of most posters here too. 

Anything that makes the game experience better for me as the gamer is something I'm going to want. What in the world is so crazy about that? lol. 

Would anyone want to play Mario Galaxy on the N64? Or Mario 64 on the SNES with Super FX chip? Or Breath of the Wild on the Wii? Outside of curiosity sake, no because it would be terrible. The games would have to be compromised in a negative way. Generational leaps have always been good for game experiences, they open the door to things that wouldn't be possible on previous platforms. 

There is nothing inherently wrong business wise with changing generations to better hardware either, Sony seems to manage just fine with the home console Playstations (aside from PS3 where they did make bad design decisions early on and paid the price for it), it's only a headache for Nintendo because they choose quite often with hardware transitions to make stupid decisions the market doesn't like. But that's not the fault of the hardware getting better. Stop doing stupid things and you'll have better hardware transitions, simple as that. 

Advance Wars is one of my favorite IP, I could give exactly zero fucks that it doesn't sell anywhere close to something else. I don't base what music I like on album sales or TV shows I watch based on TV ratings, following industry trends is fine, but when it gets to "well you should be cheerleading for crappier experiences for yourself because of sales figures" ... yeah no thanks. That's where the bus is headed to crazy land and I'll get off at this stop, thank you very much lol.

It's as simple as "You should want a successful Nintendo console, because a successful one will amass a huge game library."

The Switch already is a success, and frankly I've played a lot of great games on "failed consoles" too, so why should I care. The next Mario Kart is going to come either way, I'd rather play it on a 4K console. Simple as that. 

You might have a point with that if "bigger userbase" actually meant "well you get way better 3rd party games", but that isn't the case with Nintendo systems anyway, Switch can sell double what it has and it still wouldn't get a lot of software because it's still too much of a pain in the ass to port. Whereas with a Switch 2 there's a fairly reasonably possibility that games like Street Fighter VI and Resident Evil 4 Remake would be in play. 

It isn't really even the case that Nintendo some how "tries harder" on systems that sell more. They don't, they've made plenty of great games on some of their lower selling consoles. They're going to make quality games either way, so that isn't really a factor either. 

Like I'm pretty sure there is going to be a Mario Kart 9 at some point, is it really a benefit to me that I play that on Switch instead of a Switch 2? No, the version of the game on a Switch 2 would be better. 

If Nintendo chooses to make a bunch of stupid design/marketing/hardware or software/release decisions with the Switch 2 and it declines from Switch 1, that's on them. Get better at hardware transitions, get your shit together with better preparation, stop making excuses, that's all there is to hardware transitions, it's not some kind of elusive magic trick.

Sony is probably going to sell 100+ million PS5s ... again. They seem to be able to repeat that level of sales with their home consoles almost every time because they simply don't make many mistakes in the hardware transitions. The one time they did ($600 PS3 because they wanted Blu-Ray to beat HD-DVD as a disc format which had nothing to do with gaming), they got dinged and rightfully so. There's no reason Nintendo can't do the same, cut out the stupid bullshit of self inflicted mistakes and you'll be fine. 

Last edited by Soundwave - on 09 February 2023