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Soundwave on 09 February 2023
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RolStoppable said:
Soundwave said:

The Wii killed itself because it was foundationally rooted in fad gaming trends, the sales were already declining by 2010 and in Japan it never really was that big of a hit to begin with (PSP easily outsold it, PS3 got close after a disastrous start) I don't think Japan ever really bought the hype on the system. MS and Sony having their own motion gaming controllers by 2010 just kinda cemented it. 

You need to just get over that one already.

You shouldn't have to release monster hits for a console every 3 months in its 5th year just to keep it from drowning to death and they did get a new Zelda even in 2011. You should by that point have hundreds (thousands?) of game titles along with several evergreens. 

It faded because the people were getting bored of the concept.

And sure I'm glad the Wii died. Who the fuck would want to play Breath of the Wild or Mario 3D World on Wii's shitty hardware? Without graduating forward in hardware you'd be playing shittier versions of those games. The jump to HD gaming has been great for Nintendo's IP, so will the jump to a proper 4K console with a generational hardware leap. Why you view that as some kind of dreadful thing is just sort of laughable to me. Oh noez, you have to play better versions of games that might not even be possible on older hardware. The horror of it all.

And there it is. It's all about your personal desire to have more powerful Nintendo hardware, regardless of what it means for their business.

Yes ... and?

I'm in this to play games (go figure). Sales trends are interesting to watch, but they don't super-cede the actual games themselves for me. I'm pretty sure that is true of most posters here too. 

Anything that makes the game experience better for me as the gamer is something I'm going to want. What in the world is so crazy about that? lol. 

Would anyone want to play Mario Galaxy on the N64? Or Mario 64 on the SNES with Super FX chip? Or Breath of the Wild on the Wii? Outside of curiosity sake, no because it would be terrible. The games would have to be compromised in a negative way. Generational leaps have always been good for game experiences, they open the door to things that wouldn't be possible on previous platforms. 

There is nothing inherently wrong business wise with changing generations to better hardware either, Sony seems to manage just fine with the home console Playstations (aside from PS3 where they did make bad design decisions early on and paid the price for it), it's only a headache for Nintendo because they choose quite often with hardware transitions to make stupid decisions the market doesn't like. But that's not the fault of the hardware getting better. Stop doing stupid things and you'll have better hardware transitions, simple as that. 

Advance Wars is one of my favorite IP, I could give exactly zero fucks that it doesn't sell anywhere close to something else. I don't base what music I like on album sales or TV shows I watch based on TV ratings, following industry trends is fine, but when it gets to "well you should be cheerleading for crappier experiences for yourself because of sales figures" ... yeah no thanks. That's where the bus is headed to crazy land and I'll get off at this stop, thank you very much lol.