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Otter on 07 June 2022
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The_Liquid_Laser said:
Otter said:

1) Thats a situation where you have a collectors item with a limited run, which means its garaunteed to have high value. Its not really meaningful to compare here. The price is going to be determined not just by surplus of demand, but also their perceived value of an item. There could be 2x the demand for PS5, but it doesn't mean those people are willing to pay $699 

2) All you're saying is you don't have an interest in the PS5 but you don't represent the scope of consumers out there. Even one look at the performance of cross gen exclusives tell you the vast majority of people are holding onto buying next gen versions of cross gen games. For some on here that isn't enough reason to upgrade, but that means you're simply not the demographic driving next gen console sales or sales of new games on Playstation and Xbox.

1. Nope.  It didn't have a limited run.  They kept making more NES minis until demand was met.  It's just that for the first several months or so, demand far outstripped supply.  The PS5 doesn't have anywhere near this kind of markup so demand is only slightly higher than supply.

2. This point is bullshit.  Software sells hardware.  The PS5 lacks exclusive software.  That isn't about me.  I don't play FIFA, but if the FIFA games were Gen 9 only, then it's believable that PS5 would be in high demand.  PS5 objectively lacks big name exclusives and next gen titles.  Not only is this system not for me, it's not for the vast majority of gamers.  It needs better exclusive games and Gen 9 only games.

In short, the PS5 is not in high demand.  Instead demand is just slightly higher than supply, and supply will probably start meeting demand sometime this year.


1. They literally announced that they would discontinue it in amongst massive demand in 2017. They was a brief restock but its essentially a limited item that was never going to meet demand, hence why its now £250 on Amazon UK. Point being this was  discernibly a collectors item that will have massive value in future, there's no use in using it to understand demand for PS5 or what to expect for the resale price for a PS5, a product people know will eventually be in stock at their local store.

https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/28/15474358/nes-classic-discontinued-why-nintendo


 2. You're putting your feelings over actual data. Software sells hardware, yes. Does software need to be exclusive to the next generation in order to sell hardware, obviously not based on the performance of PS5 and Series consoles, particular Series which has no meaningful 1st party exclusives that are not on Xbox One unless we consider Flight Sim a console seller. PS5 versions of new games sells many times the rate of the last gen counterparts despite a userbase 1/6 the size. 

at launch 76% of GT7s sales was for the PS5 version, with the remainder coming on PS4.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2022-03-07-gran-turismo-7-overtakes-elden-ring-to-take-pole-position-uk-boxed-charts

People are buying the new systems to play new games as they were intended to play, they don't need it to be exclusive like you seem to believe.

Last edited by Otter - on 07 June 2022