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DonFerrari said:
Darc Requiem said:

I find this actual malice debate curious. She had first hand knowledge of the situation. She knew she was lying. She knowingly published false statements. That's actual malice. More over in a he said/she said case the credibility is important and Amber has none. Once Camille Vasquez cross examined her and repeatedly caught he in lies. She had lost whatever credibility she had left with the jury if she had any left to begin with.

The point JWeinCom was pushing was that it isn't she telling a lie or not, was if she believed it was a lie.

You think somebody who honestly believed they were abused, real or not would go to court with a fake makeup bruise to get a TRO when their ex was out of the country and couldn't defend himself the day after police came over and said she had no bruises and tip off TMZ to take pics?

Yeah, no, that's somebody who knows they're lying, plain and simple. This is to say nothing of the PILES of other evidence she knows she's lying.

Oh, and speaking of trouble:

We did it, guys... I think.