| Leynos said: Compared to the trash that is Kurtzman Trek these films were just ok Sci-Fi films, not great Star Trek films. I'm ok to watch another Pine movie if Kurtzman and his goons are far away from it. I would like to see more from the new Enterprise A. Maybe the Engine room doesn't have to be a boiler room this time. |
| shikamaru317 said: JJ Trek are at least watchable as typical summer blockbuster action movie fare, unlike Kurtzman Trek which isn't watchable at all, though both lack most of what makes Trek "Trek", so I will probably watch this movie at some point, at least as a rental. Wonder who they will cast as Chekov, since Anton Yelchin's sad death in 2016? |
Kurtzman wrote and was producer on Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek Into Darkeness (2013). So isn't Abrams Trek also Kurtzman Trek in the first place?
Anyway, I saw the 2009 reboot in the theater and didn't care for it at all. Abrams was wanting to direct a Star Wars film so bad at that time that he was basically aping A New Hope every chance he got (which unsurprisingly he pushed to the extreme in making The Force Awakens practically an exact rewrite of A New Hope). Spock showing up to ward away a beast attacking Kirk using another animal sound was a carbon copy of the introduction of Ben Kenobi for example.
My younger brother who loves the rebooted Trek insisted that I see Into Darkness, expecting that it would completely change my opinion of the new series. It didn't. I thought it was worse. I think my brother thought that I would enjoy the Khan reveal for some reason, but it didn't. The character was so much of a departure from the original series and films. You shouldn't need to read the comics, novelizations, and magazines to understand what is going on in the films. Those things are great for filling in back story, but if they are absolutely essential to understanding what is going on, then that's a failure in cinematic storytelling. I also don't think any of the scenes have the long-lasting significance of the original films. 40 years later Kirk screaming Khan's name into his communicator still resonates. Spock yelling Khan's name in the reboot films does not.
I also thought it was classless move for Simon Pegg to rewrite the character of Sulu gay without George Takei's blessing. Takei urged them to create an original new character to be the first LGBT in Star Trek rather than rewrite the established character as if a gay actor could not have possibly portrayed a straight character through 3 seasons of tv and 6 films.
I have no desire to see another installment from this cast. For me, it's like watching the Michael Bay Transformers movies. I'd prefer it if they moved onto to films centering around another crew with original stories without trying to cash in on a poor man's rehash of plot points from the original series or aped from Star Wars. But the names "Kirk" and "Spock", regardless of who is playing them, draw more people to the box office I guess.
