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Compared to the trash that is Kurtzman Trek these films were just ok Sci-Fi films, not great Star Trek films. I'm ok to watch another Pine movie if Kurtzman and his goons are far away from it. I would like to see more from the new Enterprise A. Maybe the Engine room doesn't have to be a boiler room this time.



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shikamaru317 said:

JJ Trek are at least watchable as typical summer blockbuster action movie fare, unlike Kurtzman Trek which isn't watchable at all, though both lack most of what makes Trek "Trek", so I will probably watch this movie. Wonder who they will cast as Chekov, since Anton Yelchin's sad death in 2016?

I would assume they just wouldn’t have Chekhov there, kinda like how Star Trek the animated series had everyone other then chekov as well lol. 



i liked the new trilogy,just hope they keep it clean and don't insert any political themes



Leynos said:

Compared to the trash that is Kurtzman Trek these films were just ok Sci-Fi films, not great Star Trek films. I'm ok to watch another Pine movie if Kurtzman and his goons are far away from it. I would like to see more from the new Enterprise A. Maybe the Engine room doesn't have to be a boiler room this time.

shikamaru317 said:

JJ Trek are at least watchable as typical summer blockbuster action movie fare, unlike Kurtzman Trek which isn't watchable at all, though both lack most of what makes Trek "Trek", so I will probably watch this movie at some point, at least as a rental. Wonder who they will cast as Chekov, since Anton Yelchin's sad death in 2016?

Kurtzman wrote and was producer on Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek Into Darkeness (2013).  So isn't Abrams Trek also Kurtzman Trek in the first place?  

Anyway, I saw the 2009 reboot in the theater and didn't care for it at all.  Abrams was wanting to direct a Star Wars film so bad at that time that he was basically aping A New Hope every chance he got (which unsurprisingly he pushed to the extreme in making The Force Awakens practically an exact rewrite of A New Hope). Spock showing up to ward away a beast attacking Kirk using another animal sound was a carbon copy of the introduction of Ben Kenobi for example.

My younger brother who loves the rebooted Trek insisted that I see Into Darkness, expecting that it would completely change my opinion of the new series.  It didn't.  I thought it was worse.  I think my brother thought that I would enjoy the Khan reveal for some reason, but it didn't.  The character was so much of a departure from the original series and films.  You shouldn't need to read the comics, novelizations, and magazines to understand what is going on in the films.  Those things are great for filling in back story, but if they are absolutely essential to understanding what is going on, then that's a failure in cinematic storytelling.  I also don't think any of the scenes have the long-lasting significance of the original films.  40 years later Kirk screaming Khan's name into his communicator still resonates.  Spock yelling Khan's name in the reboot films does not.

I also thought it was classless move for Simon Pegg to rewrite the character of Sulu gay without George Takei's blessing.  Takei urged them to create an original new character to be the first LGBT in Star Trek rather than rewrite the established character as if a gay actor could not have possibly portrayed a straight character through 3 seasons of tv and 6 films.

I have no desire to see another installment from this cast.  For me, it's like watching the Michael Bay Transformers movies.  I'd prefer it if they moved onto to films centering around another crew with original stories without trying to cash in on a poor man's rehash of plot points from the original series or aped from Star Wars.  But the names "Kirk" and "Spock", regardless of who is playing them, draw more people to the box office I guess.



Mandalore76 said:
Leynos said:

Compared to the trash that is Kurtzman Trek these films were just ok Sci-Fi films, not great Star Trek films. I'm ok to watch another Pine movie if Kurtzman and his goons are far away from it. I would like to see more from the new Enterprise A. Maybe the Engine room doesn't have to be a boiler room this time.

shikamaru317 said:

JJ Trek are at least watchable as typical summer blockbuster action movie fare, unlike Kurtzman Trek which isn't watchable at all, though both lack most of what makes Trek "Trek", so I will probably watch this movie at some point, at least as a rental. Wonder who they will cast as Chekov, since Anton Yelchin's sad death in 2016?

Kurtzman wrote and was producer on Star Trek (2009) and Star Trek Into Darkeness (2013).  So isn't Abrams Trek also Kurtzman Trek in the first place?  

Anyway, I saw the 2009 reboot in the theater and didn't care for it at all.  Abrams was wanting to direct a Star Wars film so bad at that time that he was basically aping A New Hope every chance he got (which unsurprisingly he pushed to the extreme in making The Force Awakens practically an exact rewrite of A New Hope). Spock showing up to ward away a beast attacking Kirk using another animal sound was a carbon copy of the introduction of Ben Kenobi for example.

My younger brother who loves the rebooted Trek insisted that I see Into Darkness, expecting that it would completely change my opinion of the new series.  It didn't.  I thought it was worse.  I think my brother thought that I would enjoy the Khan reveal for some reason, but it didn't.  The character was so much of a departure from the original series and films.  You shouldn't need to read the comics, novelizations, and magazines to understand what is going on in the films.  Those things are great for filling in back story, but if they are absolutely essential to understanding what is going on, then that's a failure in cinematic storytelling.  I also don't think any of the scenes have the long-lasting significance of the original films.  40 years later Kirk screaming Khan's name into his communicator still resonates.  Spock yelling Khan's name in the reboot films does not.

I also thought it was classless move for Simon Pegg to rewrite the character of Sulu gay without George Takei's blessing.  Takei urged them to create an original new character to be the first LGBT in Star Trek rather than rewrite the established character as if a gay actor could not have possibly portrayed a straight character through 3 seasons of tv and 6 films.

I have no desire to see another installment from this cast.  For me, it's like watching the Michael Bay Transformers movies.  I'd prefer it if they moved onto to films centering around another crew with original stories without trying to cash in on a poor man's rehash of plot points from the original series or aped from Star Wars.  But the names "Kirk" and "Spock", regardless of who is playing them, draw more people to the box office I guess.

Kurtzmen left to his own devices truly gives out trash. Dark Universe. Amazing Spiderman 2. His shitty trek shows. Bad Robot films were not great but tolerable..except into Darkness. That film is shit. They're not good but compared to Kurtzment shows, it almost seems good by comparison.



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Nice! More Saldana = better Saldana.
Wonder if they’ll set up some Next Gen movies for the Kelvin Timeline.



I loved all of the three latest Star Trek movies, they're great. This one will most likely be great too.



SuaveSocialist said:

Nice! More Saldana = better Saldana.
Wonder if they’ll set up some Next Gen movies for the Kelvin Timeline.

Don't even give them that idea. FFS no.



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Leynos said:
SuaveSocialist said:

Nice! More Saldana = better Saldana.
Wonder if they'll set up some Next Gen movies for the Kelvin Timeline.

Don't even give them that idea. FFS no.



If they get the idea, I'll happily take credit for it.  Regardless of how you might feel, the Kelvin Trilogy was very well received, with a level of consistency that Star Trek was previously unable to attain on the Big Screen.  Bring on Next Gen Kelvin, as well as DS9 and VOY.



SuaveSocialist said:
Leynos said:

Don't even give them that idea. FFS no.



If they get the idea, I'll happily take credit for it.  Regardless of how you might feel, the Kelvin Trilogy was very well received, with a level of consistency that Star Trek was previously unable to attain on the Big Screen.  Bring on Next Gen Kelvin, as well as DS9 and VOY.

I never take someone serious when they use abritary numbers and crapshoots like meta and rotten because they can't form their own thoughts. Those films are just sci fi with a Star Trek name but not Star Trek. Not going to give us something as good as Inner Light. Sorry thinking for yourself is so hard for you lot. Who just want Star Wars in a Trek skin. Things are usually more successful when they lower themselves to the lowest common denominator for the braindead masses who also like those shitty Transformers films.

Last edited by Leynos - on 20 February 2022

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