SvennoJ said:
Society is indeed difficult. That's why we have many rules that constantly change over time. When I was a kid seat belts were not a thing yet for passengers in the rear seat. Smoking was allowed everywhere, my mother was smoking next to the hospital bed my grandfather was succumbing to cancer in, on an open floor. (Unrelated cancer, but ironic nonetheless) Cars didn't have / require catalytic converters yet, alcohol was sold at gas stations, fridges were made with CFCs, speed limits were higher, wheelchair ramps were a rarity. |
-That's exactly what happened, smoking is no longer allowed in or near any public places.
Someone walking down the street past you can be smoking and can give you cancer because of it. Why not a 50 ft rule at all times? Smoking laws also aren't as universally global either.
-Some airlines make you pay for an extra seat if too obese, since you're causing a problem for the person having the seat next to you. However you don't directly hurt other people by overeating. While you're not forced to go on a diet (which doesn't help in most extreme cases anyway) society is not changing to accommodate 600 pound plus human beings. Very different from other handicaps which facilities are legally obliged to accommodate.
-Btw food is being regulated, and school lunches are under scrutiny to promote healthier eating.
Not everyone is as naturally healthy and would have to struggle to remain fit. Should these people really be punished? If so, why not punish others with other health struggles?
If an obese individual is driving down the road, chewing on a leg of KFC, has a heart attack, crashes into oncoming me, and (severely) injures me, well I'd say that's hurting other people. So much for seatbelts.
Fast food chains are still making record profits. Some of the more 'healthy' chains are being found to have less healthy ingredients than you'd expect. I see no reason why we can't formulate a weekly meal layout and force everyone to eat it. As long as it's done by the pro's and they say it's best for everyone.
-Indeed too bad for everyone else, anti vaxxers bringing measles back is a problem.
JT brought sexy back, and just when we thought the feminists had finally won. That toxic masculinity, or femininity?.. I tell ya. That lifestyle choice has got to go... So many important problems to solve, so many to choose and others to disregard.
-Paying taxes is not a choice. You still get healthcare, but why should healthcare be exempt from paying for your own negligence. If you get into an accident without wearing a seatbelt, you get patched up, and then get a fine for not wearing a seatbelt. If you don't get vaxxed and you get covid-19, get hospital care, plus a fine for not getting the freely available vaccine. Sounds reasonable to me.
Tell that to the billionaires who get away without paying them for years and years.
$50 fine for not being vaxed if you require healthcare? Ok, but then if they choose to get the vax, and something negative happens to them, they better be able to sue for millions if not tens without any bogus laws that allow a free pass to the health provider. You ok with that since you'll end up paying part of that bill?
-Masks mostly reduce the spread by reducing the outflow of the virus from an infected person. Cloth masks don't do as much to stop you from getting it, but still help. The data is there, compare places with and without mask wearing mandates.
If it still helps then there's a lot of little things that need to be done quickly when it comes to everything. Like food consumption. Forced meal plans and forced diet plans. Forced sky high gas prices and carbon taxes. Forced electrification of everything now, not later, since we don't have time. Every little bit helps everyone and the system. People can figure out how to live with it or go live in the woods.
-Because there is no way to reliably test the strength of someone's natural immunity. Nor can you even get an anti body test here. And sadly the drug companies are not interested in creating such a measuring test as there is no money in it for them. Governments are already 20 trillion more into debt from the pandemic and will stick to the current 'solution'. Money comes first sadly.
Studies have been done and show natural immunity is stronger and lasts longer than a double dose of the vax. 'We have to do what big pharma says along with the geniuses in Gov', is not a reason why people should have to take an injection. A certain race knows that kinda thing all to well, unfortunately.
-Nonsense, overeating has nothing to do with the taste of food.
That's like saying a video gaming addiction has nothing to do with how fun the games are.
-Society is indeed difficult. That's why we have many rules that constantly change over time. When I was a kid seat belts were not a thing yet for passengers in the rear seat. Smoking was allowed everywhere, my mother was smoking next to the hospital bed my grandfather was succumbing to cancer in, on an open floor. (Unrelated cancer, but ironic nonetheless) Cars didn't have / require catalytic converters yet, alcohol was sold at gas stations, fridges were made with CFCs, speed limits were higher, wheelchair ramps were a rarity.
Society is continually evolving, adjusting to new challenges as populations are growing. We got rid of the measles through vaccines, reduced health risks by banning smoking in public places, improved traffic safety with new rules, improved the environment with new requirements, improved equality by providing facilities for the disabled.
Covid-19 is just another new challenge, except the pace of change required to deal with a pandemic is 100x greater than with other issues. It took decades to get where we are with smoking today. Yet not having to walk through or sit in clouds of second hand smoke is now considered normal. You can still drive old cars without catalytic converters, but you pay extra for the privilege. Speed limits have been reduced to improve traffic safety for all. Food is regulated to prevent salmonella outbreaks, and also the types of sugar, fat and cholesterol are regulated to prevent obesity and heart disease. Vaccination is the norm from birth so people can live closer together without risking outbreaks of deadly diseases.
The only difference with Covid-19 is the speed at which change has to happen. Change happens all the time, but it takes time for people to adjust. Too much time in this case. But that's what is asked from you to reap the benefits of living in a society. You are of course free to choose to go live off-grid and do what you want, or apply to live in a different society. Yet if you live in a society, you're part of that society and are expected not to endanger others around you.
Choosing not to get vaccinated is endangering the lives of others.
And think about why we have vaccine passes now. All these extra costs are here because a lot of people refuse to get vaccinated. You can't force people, you can't keep everyone on lock down indefinitely hurting the economy more with everyone in it, thus we're stuck with annoying vaccine passports both as pressure to get vaccinated and to allow those that did get vaccinated to be able to get back to a more 'normal' life.
Choosing not to get vaccinated is now further hurting the economy and quality of life for all.
Alcohol is more widely available again, since it's so 'healthy', and not all speed limits are the same worldwide, and some roads still don't have limits.
We're also improving some people's health with the vax, and smoking, driving, and the environment still cause plenty of problems and will continue to.
Vax at birth is to help the individual, which in turn can vastly help the whole for certain specific illnesses.
The only difference is instead of being offered a shot, like the flu, covid is basically being forced on everyone. Think of all the people who've died since the flu shot was available, and all that had to be done was force everyone worldwide to take it. Why hasn't that still happened? All we had to do was wait for covid to show up and it got rid of the flu and common cold anyway, until it decides to reappear apparently. Why don't we just offer optional covid shots and just wait for the next thing to come along and make covid disappear?
Everyone is always potentially endangering someone else. Thinking you can be in public and be risk free doesn't and won't ever exist on Earth as humans.
Have they figured out exactly how covid came to be? Is the vax pass really because some people won't get jabbed? It would also be the perfect transition method to a social credit card/pass. One that everyone has to abide by worldwide. That doesn't sound like, 'go do whatever you want over there' to me.
The brainiacs in Gov are the reason the economy is hurting and yes it's diminishing everyone's quality of life.
