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shikamaru317 said:
1. Do you really think that the majority of Bethesda fans on PS won't buy a cheap Series S later in the generation or a low end gaming PC, or at least subscribe to Gamepass temporarily for xCloud play of Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6, Doom 3, etc.? I think you underestimate how fanatical Bethesda's fanbase is. As for your Halo 5 vs Halo 3 comparison, Halo 5 was down somewhat compared to Halo 3 at launch, but not quite as bad as your numbers make it seem, as digital sales on console had increased substantially between 2007 and 2015, and NPD wasn't tracking digital sales yet in 2015. While initial sales for Halo 5 were definitely lower than the Xbox 360 Halo games, Halo 5 had good legs, Michael Pachter claimed that a Microsoft representative told him that Halo 5's lifetime sales were comparable to the lifetime sales of Halo 3, Halo 4, and Halo Reach, he implied lifetime Halo 5 sales were over 10m. And so far Halo Infinite is looking like it will be a bigger success than Halo 5, especially since the multiplayer is F2P while the singleplayer will be on Gamepass. 2. I suspect more people play MLB The Show and other sports games in singleplayer than multiplayer. And I already disproved your point because we have big singleplayer or singleplayer/co-op games day and date on Gamepass, like Back 4 Blood, Outriders, and STALKER 2. 3. Depends on the game. Some are pretty cheap freebies, like the free weapon charm in Apex Legends currently, but the value of some of those free Gamepass microtransactions for F2P games adds up quite alot. For instance one F2P battle royale game, Spellbreak, has been getting it's season passes completely for free on Gamepass so far. Phantasy Star Online 2 is getting monthly free Gamepass microtransactions which include XP boosters and currency since the game released on Xbox I believe. MLB The Show 21 currently has 7 free summer packs which give you a total of 29 items. Splitgate currently has a free Gamepass pack which gives you a character skin and 3 weapon skins. Rogue Company currently has a free character, a free skin, and 20k XP. World of Warships currently has 2 free ships on Gamepass. If you play at least 1 of the F2P games that Gamepass has free perks for on any given month, it would offset a good bit of the $10 cost for that month of Gamepass. |
1. Not at all. The avg gamer on PS buys 2 games a year. If they can't find Fallout they'll just buy another of the dozen or so games. Lower is an understatement. In the UK and US, it was down by almost 60-70%. Halo 3 sold 3.3 million in 12 days compared to Halo 5's 935-1.2M in 1 month in the US. Giving a game away for free does not make it a success. A F2P game's success depends on the number of MAU over the years and avg user spend. We'll see if a F2P Halo can survive in a multiplayer world that has largely moved on. Twitch Monthly Peak Sept 2021: - Fortnite - 1,300,000
- COD - 350,000
- Apex - 330,000
- Halo - 72,000
2. No you did not. None of those games are big IPs, and it just proved my point. I'm talking about the Witchers, ACs, Star Wars, FFs, Batmans, REs, Souls of the world, big SP IPs that sell close to 10M and higher. 3. The way that business model works is by bundling its only a save if you play multiple of those games, which may only apply to a minority. Its also telling that the big three, Fortnite, Apex, Warzone are missing. |
