chakkra said:
You know, in Spanish there is an old saying that goes: "Your freedom ends where the freedom of your neighbor begins, and vice versa." That basically means that, in order to coexist with each other, we humans need to sacrifice some of our freedom, otherwise we would just kill one another. We have agreed not to break into each other houses, not to take what the other has bought with their own money, not to sexually posses anyone we are attracted to just because we are stronger, not to drive at a certain speed, not to cross the red light and let the other pass even if that means that we're going to be late for work, etc, etc. There are literally hundreds of things we have agreed NOT to do. So to put it another way, we are not 100% free, we have never been 100% free, and we CANNOT be 100% if we want to coexist with each other. If your actions put the lives of the rest of the group in danger, then you're not a part of said group and should not be allowed into it. Period. So yes, just like I have agreed to stop at the red light to let you pass, I'm willing to agree that we should all get vaccinated to get through this. |
The better way to put it would be your freedom ends when you run out of places to sail off to.
Throughout history, for a while, people would give in and cooperate, even if they disagreed. This went on until enough people couldn't take it anymore, so they left. Much of the time even after leaving, they were forced to fight at some point to keep their new land, way of life, and lives. This pretty much no longer exists in a conquered globalized world where separate Govs are working together or playing follow the leader, instead of follow the people.
What happens when a considerable group of people have had enough and want out? If there's nowhere to go, what to you think their next move will be? I can assure you it won't be simply giving in, nor trying to reach Mars and 1776 it. (There's good reason why the matrix allows the 'red pills' to leave the simulation. Better outside than inside).
The current leader of the free world seems to think we should just leave others alone and try to talk nicely to them about it after 20 years of being too bossy while getting nowhere. Letting people learn the hard way through experience is much preferable vs forcing them and potentially causing physical conflict. That however requires foresight, patience, and being somewhat inconvenienced, which is something the world greatly lacks and just wont have today.
Who's in charge certainly matters, and so is the acceptance of the people. Forcing people to accept is not the way and can lead to extreme negatives. Same with forcing people to come together. We don't force personal relationships (in the west) no matter how physically intimate, and forced intimacy leads to prison. In some places forced marriage and forced birth is seen as the way. Are they correct or do they need to be coerced to what others worldwide think is right?
For example, if the Govs happened to create deadly chaos by attempting to force vax, that would be self defeating and awfully ironic wouldn't it?
What good is trying to force someone/some place, to do something if it eventually leads to them leaving/separating, so you no longer have a say at all?
A good medical question to ask would be what would the vax situation look like everywhere right now if the American administrations hadn't changed in 2020? Just imagine this last year being led by the 'Commander in Bleach'. Some would say the situation could always be much much worse than it is as present.
